National Sport Launch 2012

[Wingarcher]

Updates and new information:

Now on the website:

Range Duty sign-up. If you're attending please fill in some of the remaining slots.

Who's attending. Will be updated as registrations come in.

New Vendors: Fliskits and Doug Pratt

Big flights: Doug Pratt: L3 on a Contrail hybrid. Senior NAR leader rumored to fly his L3 as well.... You may also see a L3 shot by a MARS member with a giant Vega (yes, a 6" Vega) and I might fly a 7.5" Cherokee!

Old News:

When: May 26, 27, 28 2012
Where: Geneseo, NY at the 1941 Historical Aircraft Group airfield
Hosted by: MARS #136
What: Inexpensive fun at one of the great rocket fields on the East coast. $30 for three days! Plenty of local attractions for the family. Town of Geneseo just a mile from the field, Rochester is 25 minutes away. Field supports micromax thru M. 9,000 AGL waiver.

Pre-registration open and T-shirt sales open- sign up for both with one easy payment.

I want to come!
Get thee to the website: www.nsl2012.org for all the details and registration

What will you be flying at NSL?

[BlueCollar Rocketeer]

What will you be flying at NSL?



ROCKETS and as many as I can:D

[Wingarcher]

New vendor added:

R&R Model Aircraft: Manufacturer of the Delta Star, Gamma Star and new Switchblade R/C rocket gliders. They will be available for purchase and demos will be done at NSL 2012.

If you haven't seen the Delta and Gamma fly, you're in for a treat. The Switchblade makes RC rocket gliders..... EASY.

N

[wclune]

ROCKETS and as many as I can:D

I will be bringing my
Wildman Darkstar aka Apollo X (if it survives RedGlare), modded to fly on 75mm motors

7.5" big daddy If AT gets the K456DM "DarkMatter" loads certified by then that will be the motor.

Possible first flight of my L3 "FUBO"

[H_Rocket]

HAGburger...HAGburger...HAGburger.


I'm thinking of putting a $100 bill in my Blackawk29, stuffing an I200 in there as well. 5..4..3..2..1...Fetch Nat - Fetch!


Seriously, I am truly excited and looking forward to being back up in Geneseo with the folks who understand that this stuff is supposed to be fun.

I am thinking...

Nike Lowrider
Velociraptor
Wocket
Quantum Leap (if I get it fixed)
Que$tionable Inve$tment
More Cowbells

And whatever else I can fit in the trailer.

I wonder how many DUMAS brothers will be there.

[Rich Pitzeruse]

I am thinking...
Wocket


I'd love to see that fly!


I wonder how many DUMAS brothers will be there.

Sadly, very very few. :(

[H_Rocket]

I'd love to see that fly!

Your wish is my command.

Red (J250) or white (J90), what's your pleasure?

I will do a Skid, however the long burns are much nicer.

[EeebeeE]

This is what I want to fly:
My Public Missiles Endeavour with a nice 54mm longburn engine
LOC Nuke Pro Maxx - If I get my L2, I'll fly it on a J530 Skidmark
Aerotech Mustang with an H163
Plus some smaller clusters and some old Estes rockets

[Wingarcher]

Latest news:

Time is running out for T-shirt pre-orders. You must place your shirt order by Thursday April 26. There will be a limited number of shirts available at the field but there will be no guaranteed size availability.

The Red Roof Inn hotel room rate/block will expire on May 9. If you are planning to attend but have not reserved a room...... what are you waiting for!?

The Genesee Valley is starting to green up, we'll be flying rockets soon!

Nat

[EeebeeE]

I love the echos of the J-M rocket engines as they roar to the skies in the Genesee Valley.

[mrwalsh85]

I live only a mile and half from the field, so I'll be visiting as long as nothing major is happening that weekend. I think a few friends are graduating from RIT but their graduations are Friday night if I'm not mistaken.

Since moving to Geneseo a few months ago, the itch has been growing to get back into rocketry. My other hobby has grown old and without the equipment to enjoy it, it's tough to maintain my enthusiasm. I was Level 2 certified for a while and got my L2 with MARS at Geneseo in '06 I think. After a year or two, I didn't have the time or funds for rockets so I ditched it. I guess you could say it's looking like I'll be a BAR soon!

I am trying to see if I can get everything sorted out for perhaps a L1 cert flight at NSL, but I'm not too optimistic at this point in time. I can always try, though. I think I may also check out the May 12-13 launch if things work out. I am hoping to pick up a new kit as well for a fun flyer... My current rocket is a 3" glass bird which I've flown on I's and J's.

Would like to touch bases and see who all is going.

Rich, you going?

[Wingarcher]

From one 1.5 mile-er to another- definitely stop by the first club launch! Ken with Performance Hobbies will be there, there is a good chance there will be an M flown, should be a good time!

Nat
(Piffard, the other direction)

[Wingarcher]

Quick Update:

Pre-registration and the blocked rooms at the Red Roof Inn will both be closing on May 9th. This will give our crack staff time to process all the registrations, assemble packets, and generally get ready. MARS has a regular club launch this weekend!! We busy! :eyepop:

If you plan to attend all three days and wish to safe some $$, plan to pre-register ASAP. Registration will be available on the field, of course.

See you in Geneseo- soon!

Nat

[EeebeeE]

Weather forecast is AWESOME!!!

Highs in the mid to upper 70's. Lows in high 50's to low 60's.

Partly cloudy to full sun.

Little if any chance of rain.

Gentle breeze of a wind.

Perfect weather.

[jrogers]

Dates are conflicting between the website and this thread.

Is it Sat,Sun and Mon or Fri, Sat and Sun?

Just beaing a Dumas (one of the few attending)

[H_Rocket]

Just beaing a Dumas (one of the few attending)

So exactly how dumb will the launch be? The Dumas comedy show is one of the main reasons to attend an event at Geneseo.

Anyone know if there is a good Mexican restaurant within a reasonable drive?


P.S. I think the actual event is Sat/Sun/Mon.

[jrogers]

Taco Bell

;)

[H_Rocket]

Why do I even bother?

[jrogers]

Why do I even bother?


You should've expected this type of answer from a Dumas

[H_Rocket]

Game-set-match!

Hey you whack job, which Dumas(es) will be there? Just you and DH8 or is Pitchershoes and a few other idjits gonna show up? Anyone bringing the 38mm Snitch?

[EeebeeE]

You can always make a trip to Buffalo and enjoy a Mighty Taco...I don't know if the one in Henrietta/Rochester will be built in time. There is a Chipoltle Grill off I-390 between the Thruway and the 590-split.

[Wingarcher]

Sheesh, Al, are you coming to dine or fly rockets?! There's a place in Henrietta (up 390) that's pretty good, or so I hear. I'll see if I can research it and let you know mebbe on the field.

Of course, in Geneseo, if the Taco Bell offerings don't suit, you shuffle over to the other counter and get KFC. Think anyone gets both? :eyepop: (really need a flatulent smiley)

Anyway- Updates:

Field: MOWED.
Down range crops: Planted, but tiny
Vendors: new addition: LOC Precision will have a smallish presence. Barry says he'll bring whatever he can stuff into his truck.
Certs: There are currently 3 L3 shots scheduled. One will be a Hybrid! One will be the NARPRES!
Set-up: Friday at 9am, if you're interested. We'll hang around till later on Friday afternoon for some of the early birds.

See ya'll there!

Nat

[Wingarcher]

I fixed the dates on the first post in this thread. :eyeroll: If ya'll want to show up on Friday, we'll put you to work. :p

N

[jflis]

FlisKits should be in the area Friday evening . We have to make a detour to Dan's Crafts in Rochester to drop off an order then settle in for the night . Hope to hit the field bright and early sat morn!

[H_Rocket]

Cake?


I like to fly AND eat!

[Wingarcher]

Al Gloer:
Mariachi Mexican Grill
400 Jefferson Rd # 12, Rochester, NY 14623
(585) 424-4411 ‎

Better make a reservation though, yo. Busy area up there especially on the weekends

N

[rdh8]

Don't forget to get your orders in early and save some bucks.
amwprox.com coupon code NSL will allow you to fly more.
Need 75mm motors? Drop me a note and we can work on a special.
Robert
robert@amwprox.com

[mrwalsh85]

Mighty Taco IS open in Henrietta and has been open for about a month, I'd say. Might be a little crowded there Saturday with graduation at RIT, but I think you guys can fit a meal in!

It sounds like thunderstorm outside in Geneseo at the moment. Hopefully the sun comes out!

[EeebeeE]

Of course in this area of NY, barbecue is king, and none is better than Sticky Lips.

[jrogers]

none is better than Sticky Lips.


I'll take the 5th Amendment

;)

[jderimig]

Of course in this area of NY, barbecue is king, and none is better than Sticky Lips.

One is way better, that would be the Dinosaur Grill downtown.

[EeebeeE]

Sticky Lips is far better than Dinosaur. Dinosaur is highly overrated.

[jderimig]

Sticky Lips is far better than Dinosaur. Dinosaur is highly overrated.

There will be about 15 men and women on Harley's coming your way to talk about this.

[Wingarcher]

ROCKETS........... we're talking about ROCKETS......... being flown at the NSL.

Aren't we? :flyingpig:

[H_Rocket]

You can do that?

Wow. Now I need to re pack.


In the trailer:

4" Jayhawk
5.5" Skeeter
3" Raven
Woket
BBX
4FNC
Initiator
Littledog
Elipse
Gizmo


Happy now?


Hitting the road around 8:30 tomorrow morning.

[H_Rocket]

To quote Neil McGilvray of MDRA


"Don't worry about the weather. It will be there...."

[jderimig]

NSL Folks:

One thing about a weather forecast is don't try to predict them too far ahead. Models are only so good.

Current forecast is not as good as it was a few days ago.Now it looks like folks better try to fly on Saturday.
Sunday looks bad !! Fog and and 100 % cloud cover and chance of rain and thunderstorms for most all of the day,
Monday some minor chance of Thunder Storms but mostly Sunny!


http://classic.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?hourly=1&query=14454&yday=146&weekday=Saturday

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Geneseo&state=NY&site=BUF&textField1=42.7983&textField2=-77.8106&e=0


Not trying to give bad news, I just work with a lot of Meteorologists and wanted to give folks a heads up !!

Cheers
John ..

Accuweather forecast is fine for Sunday. Weather forecasts are notoriously inaccurate in the Geneseo valley, take it from someone involving in planning them there for the last 7 years.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/geneseo-ny/14454/daily-weather-forecast/334631?day=3

Keep searching weather sites and we can find almost any forecast for Sunday from clear skies to a gale.

[jflis]

Well, my experience tells me that when it rains and you can't fly, you go shopping... :) :) :)

[H_Rocket]

Or sit under your tent and eat cake!

[Wingarcher]

In the trailer:

4" Jayhawk
5.5" Skeeter
3" Raven
Woket
BBX
4FNC
Initiator
Littledog
Elipse
Gizmo



I'm so gonna need a bigger chainsaw. Except for the woket. You should be ok with that one. :roll:

N

[H_Rocket]

Shaped charges...

[jflis]

Well we just got settled in. We are at the red roof inn. In a bit we're heading up to dans crafts and things in Rochester to deliver an order. We're going to wait till morning to set up our booth. Also, since Saturday has the better weather, we're going to cut the cake on Sat :)

Speaking of cake... See attached :D

Jim

[Wingarcher]

WOooooo! Nice cake, Jim! We'll see you bright and early!

I'll bring a fork. :-)

Nat

[jflis]

Well, day 1 of NSL was a HOOT! :)

The weather was incredible and there were a LOT of flights throughout the day.

Friendly folk hanging around the booth, rocket stories, good food and great cake.

Was a good day :)

Resting now in preparation for tomorrow. Hoping the rain holds off...

[BlueCollar Rocketeer]

Tasty cake and cool rockets

[Johnly]

Here's a picture of Trip's L3 certification flight under thrust.
85161

A M1600R lifted the 60 pound airframe to just under 6,000ft.
The recovery was just as planned.

John

[Wingarcher]

Here's the before!
85178

[GuyNoir]

Here's a picture of Trip's L3 certification flight under thrust.
85161

A M1600R lifted the 60 pound airframe to just under 6,000ft.
The recovery was just as planned.

John

Nice shot, and by all accounts an excellent flight! Thanks!

[Johnly]

Nice shot, and by all accounts an excellent flight! Thanks!

There's also a special L2 certification program available to former NAR Presidents.....:wink:

John

[jsdemar]

Saturday: my only flight of NSL was a 7.5" FatBoy K-motor drag race between me and Joel Rogers. He cheated. ;)
Same rocket i flew and WON with 4 years ago at NYPOWER (see banner at http://www.marsclub.org ).
K555 skidmark in mine this time, and a K7xx CTI Black Bear in Joels.

[mrwalsh85]

Just got home from NSL! It was well worth the 5 minute drive to the field :)

I didn't renew, but picked up some stuff and things to get re-certified if NAR can't find my information. L1 and L2 should be a piece of cake, anyways. Been there, done that.

Lots of fun flights went off. Some big tube fin rocket went off on a L if I'm not mistaken. Pretty nice flight, the recovery sufficed, although the harness wrapped around the rocket if I'm not mistaken. Chutes were open and the bird came down at a controlled descent.

I'll likely post photos on here later.

Got to meet Barry Lynch of LOC Precision fame. I've been talking with this dude as well as a number of others on ROL chat since '98 or earlier... Nice to put a face to a name! Also met Robert DeHate.

Can't wait to get my bird built and get my certs again.... I think I might do my certs at LDRS. Now, to find someone who can cert me....

-Mike

[jflis]

Another great day at NSL. And we dodged a weather bullet too... Yesterday they were talking a 60% chance of rain and thunder storms. This morning that was knocked down to 20% and, in actuality, there was no rain at all and a dead calm most of the day.

Simply wonderful!

I had perfect flights on my Decaffeinator, K'TNG'A, Tesla, Tiddlywinks, Aggie ( micromaxx marble loft), Borealis and Nell.

Good day!

[EeebeeE]

All the vendors there were AWESOME, especially the guys at LOC Precision. When my PML Endeavour shredded (another story in and of itself) I had to revert to my backup rocket, my LOC Nuke Pro Maxx.

So I talked to LOC guys, showed it to them and we talked about how it was built and what sort of J engine to put into it. He was confident the rocket would hold together. It ended up flying on a J270, pushed Mach 1 (don't know if I punched it or not) and ended up being one of the highest altitude flights of NSL. My Stratologger read 8,479 feet.

With the help of Wing Archer, we recovered it intact at Geneseo University. Great rocket. Unbelievable flight. and I earned my Level 2. The LOC guys are genuinely good people. Thanks for the advice and the confidence in your product.

[GuyNoir]

There's also a special L2 certification program available to former NAR Presidents

The proper term is "past presidents". :)

Let's see if I get my Phantom 4000 HD ready enough to fly dual deploy at NARAM, then we'll see about L2.

[Sparkytfl]

If anybody there happened to find or knows who found my estes venom, there's a reward for it. I lost it in the final drag race saturday, and considering I only used a B64 and the chute barely opens, I know it didnt go far. Looked like it landed right in the corner of the parking lot to the right of the pad. My two hours of searching failed to find it. I had that for near 15 years and it was the last of my original fleet. May not find another because everybody bought them up for those argosy nosecones.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/Sparkytfl/Forums/venom.jpg

[EeebeeE]

Video footage of Trip Barber's L3 Flight. Nice straight up on a picture-perfect day.
42363yERu64

[jderimig]

If anybody there happened to find or knows who found my estes venom, there's a reward for it. I lost it in the final drag race saturday, and considering I only used a B64 and the chute barely opens, I know it didnt go far. Looked like it landed right in the corner of the parking lot to the right of the pad. My two hours of searching failed to find it. I had that for near 15 years and it was the last of my original fleet. May not find another because everybody bought them up for those argosy nosecones.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/Sparkytfl/Forums/venom.jpg

It looks like your's may be found.

http://www.marsclub.org/forum/index.php?topic=282.0#new

[jimgoggins]

If anybody there happened to find or knows who found my estes venom, there's a reward for it. I lost it in the final drag race saturday, and considering I only used a B64 and the chute barely opens, I know it didnt go far. Looked like it landed right in the corner of the parking lot to the right of the pad. My two hours of searching failed to find it. I had that for near 15 years and it was the last of my original fleet. May not find another because everybody bought them up for those argosy nosecones.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/Sparkytfl/Forums/venom.jpg

It has indeed been found intact. Contact me at jimgoggins@yahoo.com

[PrattHobbies]

I had a fantastic time at NSL! I want to especially thank Chris, the guy with the pickup, who must have taken pity on the old man as I was stumbling across the field toward my Tomahawk, and packed it all up for me.

It's always a thrill for me to fly at Geneseo. I have a lot of fond memories from there, going back to AMA free flight scale meets in the 1980s. And of course, my home town is about an hour to the west. If you stay on Route 63 it turns into Main Street in Lyndonville, about four miles before it dead-ends into Lake Ontario.

John D., thanks again. I'm sorry I didn't make it back on Sunday to support any of your hybrid flying, I'll make it up to you another time. Your MARSA4 gadget is inspiring me to get cracking on some more stuff. I'm building a new payload section for my stretched-4-fin Magnum and I'll have to fly it on some interesting 54mm Contrail. Maybe the K550 with the three port injector.

Here's the Youtube video of my Tomahawk flying on the Contrail L1222, with the fob cam taped to the upper tube and hanging on for dear life: http://youtu.be/ri9gLJg5TVs

A great weekend with wonderful folks in a beautiful spot. What's not to love?

[jflis]

Got my photo album up and you can access it by clicking this link! (http://fliskits.com/photo_album/2012/nsl/index.htm)

A simply wonderful weekend! Now to get ready for NERRF :)

[Sparkytfl]

Oh awesome! Thanks guys! I'll definitely be sending an email. I planned on it anyway because I plan on joining before the july launch and have a couple questions.

Hey I see my Bertha next to the Celtic Thunder in those pictures.

[EeebeeE]

While many flights were successful, some were not. Here is ground and onboard video of my PML Endeavor losing a fin in flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkn7LY_5Rxw

Does anyone had any images or videos of Dennis Jurus' Humongous Big Daddy attempting to be a lawn dart? How big was the largest piece?

[PrattHobbies]

Hey, thanks a lot to everyone who made NSL a lot of fun. Especially Chris, the guy with the pickup who schlepped my Tomahawk around on Saturday. Never got his last name but he saved my life.

And thanks to Bayou Rat Rocketry, who got me one of their gadgets in time for me to tape it to the Tomahawk and give it a ride on a Contrail L1222 hybrid. I used the footage in this video:

http://youtu.be/hhqQpNSTknE

Doug Pratt

[DeWain]

Thanks to everyone who came out to NSL-- flyers and vendors. And a huge thanks to Jim, Linda, Chris, Krista, Nat, Michelle and everyone else who put so much time into making this event a "go."

Now I know why Jim Flis' cake is so famous! We will have to convince you to come to NYPOWER next year (I promise to buy more MicroMaxx Crayons).

[troj]

I'm looking for anyone who knows of any photographers that were there -- I'm searching for a launch pic of a specific rocket.

If you know of someone, or were there and may have what I'm after, please contact me privately.

Yes, there's a reason for it to be private -- I have a specific need for a surprise.

-Kevin

[Ramjet]

OK, Way late response to this thread.

I was there with all 3 sizes of my Mars Landers. Clone, 1.6X, and 2X. They all flew but my camera died and I got Zero pictures out of the whole meet.
Does anyone have Pics of my Mars Landers flying?
(update I got one picture, From NAR ! They had the 2X in the magazine coverage, but without any annotation)

[jderimig]

Go to the mars website, marsclub.org, register for the forum there and post that question. I wouldn,t be suprised if our club photographer doesn,t have some.