Year of Astronautics

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The year of 2011 named in Russia as The Year of Astronautics. These rockets have been made as gifts to children.

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Children's Day in Moscow.

[Initiator001]

It looks like a fun time.

Very nice workmanship on the models. :)

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It looks like a fun time.


Thanks, all built rockets, the childhood should be happy, and all life too.

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My photos on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/65885025@N08/sets/,
There in more details.

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Launch video: Motor HELIUM 10mm 3/4A1.2-3 Rocket: length 370mm diameter 40.1mm weight 28grams Сlass "for a city"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwd7dtqLOOc

[Wayco]

Thanks for sharing your pictures and video's with us. I really enjoyed the "Children's day in Moscow" shots, it is interesting to see how your culture is different and the same in some ways as ours.
That video of the helium powered rocket launched in the park was kinda funny, I was thinking that the guy behind the camera was commenting about the trees, and hoping that his rocket missed. Just like here, you have a whole park to land in, and the rocket has to be attracted to the only trees around!

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Thanks, Wayco. I am glad to be the participant of of this Forum, and tell about rocketry in Russia. Rocketeers to understand each other more easy.
This place not far from center of Moscow. To the Kremlin about 6-7 kilometers.

[powderburner]

If you are a part of the rocketry club shown in those pictures, I think it is fantastic that you and your friends would do something so generous for the kids in your area. Those kids were probably very happy to get a chance to learn about rocketry and experience a launch!

Welcome to TRF, we are glad you joined in and hope you come back often. Many of us would like to hear much more about what model rocketry is like in your country and what kinds of products are available to you.

Just in case it happens (and I seriously hope it does NOT), sometimes the posted comments here on TRF can get a little rough. Or just plain ugly and rude. In case you have seen this already, I apologize for our bad manners. I could imagine how you might innocently mis-understand if someone posts a reference to something American that does not translate easily, so please be a little patient with us while we try to understand each other better.

We like lots of rocket pictures, so you are off to a great start!

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Welcome to TRF


I am very grateful for kind words, Powderburner, thank you very much. For this moment my English is very poor. In some case there may be a misunderstanding. I do my best.

These photos of the Russian Science Festival 2010. Moscow.

[gdiscenza]

For this moment my English is very poor.

Your English is better than my Russian Gospodin Round.

G.D

[chadrog]

Welcome to TRF


I am very grateful for kind words, powderburner, thank you very much. For this moment my English is very poor. In some case there may be a misunderstanding. I do my best.

These photos of the Russian Science Festival 2010. Moscow.

Beautiful displays!

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Your English is better than my Russian Gospodin Round.


If you had a look, how it made

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At an exhibition Scientific and Technical Creativity of Youth 2011. Moscow On June, 29th - on July, 1st

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Last two photos of a Russian Federal Space Agency's chalet.

[caveduck]

Fascinating photos Round - very nice models on display there. We need such good examples of encouraging kids to go into science and engineering over here! Also nice to see Korolev getting credit for his work. (I studied Russian for 2 years a long time ago so I can decode some of the signs). Glad to have you on TRF.

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Glad to have you on TRF.


Many thanks, Сaveduck, for your attention to my work. American rocketry is a reference point for all. Russia should pass this way. I trust in the creative initiative of people which can overcome any obstacles. We look ahead together.

[sodmeister]

Dear Round ,

I have been looking at your model rockets ,and i must say they are absolutely beautiful ,very nice displays !

I would like to visit the science festivals ,space & aviation museums,looks very interesting and a lot of fun ,very good for the children and adults too !

Keep up the good work and thankyou for the fine pictures ,I enjoyed them all !

Sincerely

Paul T

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Keep up the good work and thankyou for the fine pictures

Thank you, Paul. I will prepare materials on several themes for discussion. How to show photos in the high resolution for participants of this Forum?

[caveduck]

How to show photos in the high resolution for participants of this Forum?

I looked at your attachment photos and they are mostly as large as TRF currently allows. Right now the only way to display higher-res images is to put links in your message pointing to URLs on an external site like Picasa, Photobucket, etc. Attachments are the "officially" preferred method because they remain as part of TRF and won't go away if your external photo URLs disappear or change. I think it would be nice if TRF supported bigger attachments, but since the admins are graciously donating the hosting we have to let them decide how much storage to give.

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Right now the only way to display higher-res images is to put links in your message pointing to URLs on an external site like Picasa, Photobucket, etc.


It is clear, Thanks your for help, Сaveduck.

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Rockets of initial level for schoolboys and different types of motors.

Rockets: Tube Diameter: 40.1mm
Length: 340-750 mm
Motor Mount Size: 10mm 12mm 14mm 16mm 17mm
Weight (without motor): 24 -130gm
Altitude: 20-1200 m

Motors: 10mm: 1/3A1.3-2 1/2A1.3-2 3/4A1.2-3 A1.2-3 3/4B1.2-4 B1.2-4
11mm: C1.3-4
16mm: D4.7-4
17mm: E4.7-4


Launch video: Motor ARGON 10mm 3/4B30-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZAqy6Vgoc&feature=related

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17mm 24mm 29mm

[qquake2k]

Privet and welcome! This is beyond awesome. Your rockets are gorgeous! Are they made from kits or from scratch? Who manufactures your motors? I'd love to see some closeup photos of your motors and igniters. Also, I was looking at your Flickr photos, and was wondering about your launch pad. The guide on it doesn't look very long. Is it a rail or a rod? For a rocket that size, here we would normally use a rod about a meter long. Keep the great photos coming!

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Privet and welcome!

Dear Qquake2k, all these things are developed by me. Motors are done by factory. I will give the detailed report about models and motors with photos and videos. No need long guide. The motor starts for very short time, about 0.005-0.01s. The guide is rail.

[GregGleason]

Very nice! If you thought it would be of interest to those so far away, you are correct.

A special thanks for showing the Russian Federal Space Agency display. I really liked the progression display of the models, from the Russian V-2 to Soyuz.

Also, the designs are quite interesting and while the basics are the same, the designs seem to have their own unique DNA.

Greg

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The designs seem to have their own unique DNA.

From the ground up to do always easier, it is free from schemes.

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Qquake2k: I'd love to see some closeup photos of your motors and igniters.


Variants system of ignition. Igniter working on a foto IGN0002. Synchronous ignition of a sheaf of motors. The igniter is unified for all types of motors (channel and face). On a photo nozzleless motors.

[qquake2k]

Qquake2k: I'd love to see some closeup photos of your motors and igniters.


Variants system of ignition. Igniter working on a foto IGN0002. Synchronous ignition of a sheaf of motors. The igniter is unified for all types of engines (channel and face). On a photo nozzleless motors.

Very interesting. Are the motors made in Russia?

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Are the motors made in Russia?

All it is made in Russia a long time ago.

[GDJ]

1) Welcome!
2) Loved the photographs.
3) Your english is just fine for this place! :)

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GDJ Welcome!
2) Loved the photographs.
3) Your english is just fine for this place!

Thank you, GDJ.
I learned English language at school. Knew that it is useful.

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I have a friend. His name is Alexander Puzikov. He works for club of children's technical creativity in the city of Biysk on Altai (from Moscow about 3800 kilometers). A few shots from children's party "Day of Astronautics 2011"

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More bigger . . .

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SA-4, Ganef and Nike

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. . .

[qquake2k]

Awesome rockets! I especially like the Vostok.

[GDJ]

Awesome rockets! I especially like the Vostok.

I agree 100%!:cool:

[sodmeister]

Those are great looking scale rockets ,very nice !!

SA-4 and Ganef are great lookin.

Vostok is always a beautiful looking rocket.

Nike is one of my favorites !!!

Cheers

Paul t

[AstronMike]

Great pictures, Round!

Looks like there was a good crowd on hand to watch your demo. That really large Vostok.....seemed like it was flown on a cluster of black powder based motors from the flames and exhaust. What motors were used in this, and how much did the rocket really weigh? I'm guessing that you guys build light as 'conventional HPR' type stuff isn't around much in Russia.

Please post more photos of stuff like this when you can!

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AstronMike Great pictures!


Dear AstronMike, I have asked Alexander to prepare the detailed report about his work. All will be here.

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20th Anniversary rocketry club in Biysk.

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Some of micro and mini series.

Tube Diameter: 16-22 mm
Length: 28-50 cm

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The rocket for competitions FAI S3 and S6.

Tube Diameter: 40.1 mm
Length: 51 cm
Weight (without motor): 11 g.

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Rocket motor static test 10mm 0.75A21-8 for rocket, which launch from RC models.


Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT8jvcAZL7o

[caveduck]

Thanks for the ongoing posts of spacemodeling on the other side of the world! Scale models seem to be quite popular out there - I love seeing the clustered Vostok style models. A long time ago I got to see the ones that team Russia brought to the world championships; they were extremely impressive.

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X-58 1/12 scale for RC planes.

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Some parts.

[powderburner]

X-58 1/12 scale for RC planes.

That is a great-looking Kh-58 kit, is it commercially available or was it someone's custom build? And can you say why it is for RC planes? It sure looks like a regular model rocket, with a motor in the bottom and all the rest.

Your next series of pictures (VERY nice shots, by the way) shows a flexible tube that looks like it screws into the top of the motor. So, what is the tube for? (I haven't seen any products like that here in the US) Does it contain and direct some hot motor gas forward to the other motor for ignition? And what is the other motor doing plugged into the back of the nose cone?

Just what is going on there? (You seem to have a completely different setup for your kit than what we use.)

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[QUOTE=powderburner;238445]That is a great-looking Kh-58 kit, is it commercially available or was it someone's custom build?

Dear Powderburner,
I have a friend in Moscow, He builds Mig-25 in 1/12 scale. He asked me: "Can you arm the plane ?" This rocket is developed for launch from the RC plane and works like a real missile Kh-58. This rocket has no recovery system. The nose cone contains inside a powder pigment and a small cracker. The cracker sprays the pigment, it looks like explosion of a warhead. This model should be very reliable in work. The black tube reliably and quickly transfers fire from a delay to the cracker. In last photo the cracker isn't inserted up to the end. At the moment I develop some more models same type.
This model can be kits if only with a recovery system (parachute or streamer).

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Black magic tube inside.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL8SDZWWCIU

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. . . and these rockets to destroy RC planes :smile:

[powderburner]

. . . and these rockets to destroy RC planes :smile:

Isn't that the 9K37 and the improved version? (9M317?) Those both look like great examples of craft skills and model-building handywork!

Are these also some of your own design-and-build model rockets? Do you have a secret source of good scale data for these missiles (if it is NOT classified or anything that would cause problems) or did you pull the measurements from photographs and other sources?

And what else are you hiding over there?

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Powderburner And what else are you hiding over there?

I have no secrets for Friends in America. My information over here.

[caveduck]

Very nice photos!!

On our side of the water I'll be attending the MCAS Miramar air show here in San Diego on Saturday to see what they have. There's always a good selection of WWII and post-WWII aircraft, but usually not many missiles. I'm hoping there will still be a B-17 this year but several have crashed in the last few years and there are hardly any flying ones left. Several years ago we got to see the SR-71 Blackbird (the noisiest airplane I've ever heard) and more recently the F-117 stealth fighter.

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caveduck Very nice photos!!


Thanks, Caveduck

Make photos, please, I haven't chance to see this myself. Thank you in advance. Have a nice trip.

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Today the second day of work of The VIth Russian Science Festival in Moscow.
A few photos of my exhibition space.

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Rockets of a Experimental class.

[foamy]

Wow. Very nice display with some seriously well built and finished rockets. I'm very impressed.

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foamy Wow. Very nice display with some seriously well built and finished rockets. I'm very impressed.


Thanks Foamy, I had very hard work

[GDJ]

Your hard work paid off nicely Round. You have an excellent display of rockets that show an excellent level of workmanship.

Я желаю вам ясное небо и быстро рейсы!

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Science Festival 2011 in pictures

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GDJ Your hard work paid off nicely Round.

Thank you, GDJ, the most interesting ahead, soon test launches.

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Surprise after an exhibition. More year I conducted a rocketry circle with schoolboys in the evenings. Someone has told to the director about an exhibition and she has decided that I work too much . . .

[foamy]

What's going on there?

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What's going on there?

Nothing. There is a big house in the center of Moscow, There only officials. The circle worked only by me. Nobody will forbid rockets to fly

[powderburner]

Isn't it funny how rocketry nerds look just about the same, all around the world?

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Isn't it funny how rocketry nerds look just about the same, all around the world?

People all different, but something are similar :D

[Montaro]

Excellent Picture Round !!

I read all the thread very interesting

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Excellent Picture Round !!

I read all the thread very interesting


Thank you, Montaro. Fine when people understand each other.

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History of the Russian rocketry.

I have opened the old chest, having blown off a dust, and memoirs have gushed like a river ...
Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine, Jangel Cup1996. I took part in organization of competitions, tested motors of participants. On photos Vladimir Hohlov - veteran of rocketry in Russia, and team "DAK" rocketry club.

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One more unforgettable moment. The problem with motors of the first stage, but the second stage has made successful flight.

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Taurus-Tomahawk - one of my favourite rockets. For this moment I create its kit.

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Rocketry club "Young technician" in Moscow. A workshop.

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Club rockets

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Club FAI records

[caveduck]

More fascinating photos - thanks!!

I only write occasionally, but I look at everything you post here. спасибо!!

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More fascinating photos - thanks!!

I only write occasionally, but I look at everything you post here. спасибо!!

I am very grateful to you, Dave. I don't write much too, but sometimes pictures speak more than words.
Thanks.

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Preparations for launch of Ariane.

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Launch

[powderburner]

I think it is great to see an active club anywhere, especially with young guys learning and having fun.

And that Arianne model looks very nice.

Thanks for sharing those pix, Round

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High-altitude experimental minirocket in details. Fiberglass
airframe tube O.D. - 17mm, phenolic fins.

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If this rocket is used as the second stage the motor for it works so at picture. Weight of 10mm HELIUM B1.2-4 - 5.8g

[luke strawwalker]

I like the color-coded motor cases... that's a GREAT idea-- one I wish OUR manufacturers would adopt... the closest we've had was Estes printing the product info and motor size on the casing in colored ink-- red for booster motors, green for single-stage motors, purple for upper-stage (two or three stage) motors.

What material is the nozzle made from?? It looks to be a very hard very fine grained white material of some sort?? Looks very interesting. Also interesting reading about the different casing sizes... in the US the most common casing sizes are 13mm (mini-motors), 18mm (regular model rocket motors), 24mm (mid-power D/E size black powder propellant motors), and then going up to 29mm motors and switching to APCP composite propellant for large F/G size mid power motors and on up from there into high power rocketry sizes, commonly 38mm and 54mm (on up). Nearly forgot the teeny 1/8A MicroMaxx motors, but I don't remember what their casing size is... (VERY tiny).

Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing... I'm a great admirer of Russian Space history and hardware/equipment. Congratulations on your excellent models and displays and thank you for sharing them here! Please post more!
Later!
OL JR :)

PS... is your avatar an Uragan?? I've been reading about those and am considering making a model of it... :)

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Many thanks, Dear Luke Strawwalker, for interest to my information. The motor nozzle is made of special ceramics. Ddifferent casing sizes - possibility of optimum designing in LPR, as mainstream of rocketry in Russia.
Yes, it really Uragan (Hurricane), very interesting site about this system and other rockets and spaceships, Hi-res photos are especially good.

Visit PLS: http://www.buran.ru/
http://www.buran.ru/htm/family.htm
http://www.buran.ru/htm/foto14.htm

[luke strawwalker]

Many thanks, Dear Luke Strawwalker, for interest to my information. The motor nozzle is made of special ceramics. Ddifferent casing sizes - possibility of optimum designing in LPR, as mainstream of rocketry in Russia.
Yes, it really Uragan (Hurricane), very interesting site about this system and other rockets and spaceships, Hi-res photos are especially good.

Visit PLS: http://www.buran.ru/
http://www.buran.ru/htm/family.htm
http://www.buran.ru/htm/foto14.htm

Spacibo Round! I greatly appreciate it! Those are REALLY cool websites!

I've read as much as I could find from links on www.nasaspaceflight.com/forums and I think that's an AMAZING design... it's what the US SHOULD be building but isn't... flyback boosters are going to be needed to really bring spaceflight costs down... having to rebuild boosters that have been dunked in the ocean (on the US side) or parachuted down to a hard ground landing (Russian side) is never going to lead to a practical affordable sustainable system... (much as I love the Energia/Buran and Vulkan...) I was looking at some interesting flyback boosters recently but I can't recall the names offhand... had small jet engines installed in the nosecones of the boosters and foldout wings to bring them autonomously back to a runway landing after separation from the space rocket...

Thanks again for your terrific pictures and info!

Later! OL JR :)

[NJRick]

Round,
I have really enjoyed all of your pictures that you have posted! It is fun to see that interest in rocketry knows no nationalities. You have built some beautiful rockets!

Rick

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Thanks for kind words, Rick.

Thrust curves of 16mm HELIUM D5-4 rocket motor.

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The flame form depends on ejection speed. Motor 10mm HELIUM A1.2-4 Nozzle throat 1.1mm First pic strong initial thrust, second pic constant lower thrust. If attentively have a look at the second pic, in the end of flame the smallest parts of insulator are visible.

[caveduck]

I love the wide range of small motors available over in Russia. If some enterprising person could find a way to import the Helium brand motors to the USA it would be great for both sport and competition. But shipping regulations would cause a lot of trouble.

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I love the wide range of small motors available over in Russia. If some enterprising person could find a way to import the Helium brand motors to the USA it would be great for both sport and competition. But shipping regulations would cause a lot of trouble.



I agree, Dave, the question not so simple. I think about project for schoolboys of America and Russia. It is necessary to search for adherents. If children are on friendly terms, may be can adults will quarrels less often.
The detailed information about motors ahead. Need more time to make launch videos of rockets for descriptive reasons. I have no chance to do it right now. I will plan launch day On Christmas vacation.

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Motor 10mm HELIUM B1.15-2 Burn Time 4.35 s Length 54(mm) Initial Mass 5.7 (g)
Test video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKwZfNFnjms&context=C31bf52dADOEgsToPDskI1wK3kYL6zGJMJ75tbcZ-g

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12mm long burn motors Helium-12 0.8C1.5-4 , C1.5-4 and rockets. Third picture - thrust curves of 10mm Helium-10 0.75C1.25-4.

[[POW]Eagle159]

Dang, Those rockets look amazing! Better than most of mine!:blush:

Can you explain more on the engine codes...
Like example...A8-3, A= impulse 8= average thrust -3 delay of ejection charge.

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Eagle159;273288']Dang, Those rockets look amazing! Better than most of mine!:blush:

Can you explain more on the engine codes...
Like example...A8-3, A= impulse 8= average thrust -3 delay of ejection charge.

I plan to prepare the detailed report about motors on Christmas vacation. Tests are not completely finished yet.

[GDJ]

What scale do you use for measured force? KG/ Metre squared?

I wants these motors! :)

[[POW]Eagle159]

What scale do you use for measured force? KG/ Metre squared?

I wants these motors! :)

Meter....:D

[GDJ]

Eagle159;273457']Meter....:D

Both are correct. Meter and Metre are used in Canada (english and french).

[[POW]Eagle159]

Both are correct. Meter and Metre are used in Canada (english and french).


Oooooo, thats like colour and color too

[GDJ]

Eagle159;273502']Oooooo, thats like colour and color too

Yep. You got it!
:wink:

[AstronMike]

Eagle159;273288']Dang, Those rockets look amazing! Better than most of mine!:blush:

Can you explain more on the engine codes...
Like example...A8-3, A= impulse 8= average thrust -3 delay of ejection charge.

It looks like he is doing *exactly* the 'NAR Way' in motor designations. Look at that C1.5 motor chart - it shows like a 6 second burn time! Plus, a really low sustaining thrust after that ignition spike. He showed a B1.something a few days ago that looked similar.

Man, what those motors would look like in a really light paper based rocket!

The Russians have created a 'motor technology gap' on us!! :roll:

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It looks like he is doing *exactly* the 'NAR Way' in motor designations. Look at that C1.5 motor chart - it shows like a 6 second burn time! Plus, a really low sustaining thrust after that ignition spike. He showed a B1.something a few days ago that looked similar.

Man, what those motors would look like in a really light paper based rocket!

The Russians have created a 'motor technology gap' on us!! :roll:

Dear AstronMike, C1.5 - average thrust (N) of HELIUM-12 (12mm case), On a picture of the previous message thrust curves of Helium-10 (10mm case)-10 0.75C1.25-4, burn time 6.35 s, diameter of case 10.3 mm, length 63mm.
View after use. Temperature on a surface of the case after burn time 6.35s no more than 120 degrees on Celsius

[[POW]Eagle159]

Those are pretty long compared to the diameter. The Estes engines are like 18mm x 70mm and have .75 to 1.5 burn times.

Isn't 120 degrees celsuis pretty hot!

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Eagle159;273738']Those are pretty long compared to the diameter. The Estes engines are like 18mm x 70mm and have .75 to 1.5 burn times.

Isn't 120 degrees celsuis pretty hot!

Temperature on a surface - Pay for long time of burn, no way. Estes and me - Two different types of propellants.

[GDJ]

Eagle159;273738']

Isn't 120 degrees celsuis pretty hot!

It's barely above boiling point of water.

[Boosterdude]

Hello Round,

Would it be possible for you to post a construction thread or two on some of the rockets you have displayed in this thread? I'm always looking for new models to build, and your look fantastic. Or maybe some plans with fin patterns.

I think it's outstanding we have some one from Russia posting. A lot to be learned from each other no doubt.

Thanks
John

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Hello Round,

Would it be possible for you to post a construction thread or two on some of the rockets you have displayed in this thread? I'm always looking for new models to build, and your look fantastic. Or maybe some plans with fin patterns.

I think it's outstanding we have some one from Russia posting. A lot to be learned from each other no doubt.

Thanks
John

Thanks for your attention to my work, Dear Boosterdude. I have started to show "how it's made" on one of models, and I will finish it, but I am convinced that me to Hcmbanjo and Micromeister is very far. They real masters. At TRF many interesting models and the people, I am glad to be a member. I hope, in Russia, in a future, may be, will be as much rocketeers as well in America.

Thanks,
Serg

[Boosterdude]

Hi Serg, certainly looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Thanks
John

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The smallest motor Helium-10_0.5A1.25-3. Burn Time 1s, Total Impulse 1.25 N-s, Length 27(mm), Max Thrust 6.7(N), Initial Mass 3.0(g). The clear sky over Moscow isn't present, It is a high time for microrockets.

Test video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaDw0VYSjuQ

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Test of 12mm long burn motors Helium-12 0.75C1.5-4. Burn Time 4.6s, Total Impulse 8 N-s, Length 51(mm), Max Thrust 12.3(N), Initial Mass 7.8(g)

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Ai7xlCfFg

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The longest burn time motor in A class Helium-10 A0,85-4 , Length 39mm, Initial Mass 4.3g Burn Time 3.01s

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Y40c8Stnw

[[POW]Eagle159]

WOW, nice flame on that video!

Are these motors new? is that why you are testing them?

I like the colors for each type too!

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Eagle159;279364']WOW, nice flame on that video!

Are these motors new? is that why you are testing them?

I like the colors for each type too!

Motors - the part of the school educational rocketry program, for a practical tasks with calculation is required exact definition of performance. Colors of motors will be definitively defined after the conceptual decision in a complex the "rockets-motors".

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Model rocket kit for schoolboys. Simple assemblage (without tools) and easy to fly.
Length: 64 cm
Tube Diameter: 40,1 cm

[qquake2k]

Model rocket kit for schoolboys. Simple assemblage (without tools) and easy to fly.
Length: 64 cm
Tube Diameter: 40,1 cm

That's a neat kit!

[foamy]

Model rocket kit for schoolboys. Simple assemblage (without tools) and easy to fly.
Length: 64 cm
Tube Diameter: 40,1 cm
Everything looks so thin and dainty—very sharp. Lucky schoolboys. Can these be aquired?

[[POW]Eagle159]

Can those kits be mixed with the other parts in the picture? I Like that a lot!

[GDJ]

Everything looks so thin and dainty—very sharp. Lucky schoolboys. Can these be aquired?

X2 on this. This is a very sharp looking kit.:cool:

I'm curious on the logistics of shipping one of these kits to Canada.

[Montaro]

hello Round

I searched in google.ru but i just could find few site

the http://podarini.ru but sell just estes and aerotech rocket and real-rocket motors

http://www.real-rockets.ru/ unfortunatelly looks like he use charset KOI and i could read it

http://www.2025god.ru sell just rocket and all are estes

http://raketoff.ru raketfest seems fun, good pictures, but i couldn't find any store

http://forum.rcdesign.ru I found your thread but any link there :(

About russian motors i just found a homemade motors, i couldn't find any information about helium motor, just you forum threads.

Could you share with us some links ?

Thanks!

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I am very grateful to all of you, my Friends, for kindly words, Thanks. It very interesting to show my work to all not only on pictures. The opinion from "Rocketry Land" for me is very important. May be a Lord will make this miracle.

Dear Montaro,
All rocketeers in Russia know each other because us is not a lot. We are enthusiasts. Everyone chooses the way itself. My way is legal sale of motors and rocket kits, working out of educational programs for schoolboys. For three years I keep the domain and intend to open the site, but each time I stop for creating myself a new task. As soon as all will be ready, I will inform you.

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Eagle159;285162']Can those kits be mixed with the other parts in the picture? I Like that a lot!

Absolutely correct, [POW]Eagle159, modular multipurpose design. I will show in flight as soon as there will be a weather.

[Montaro]

I am very grateful to all of you, my Friends, for kindly words, Thanks. It very interesting to show my work to all not only on pictures. The opinion from "Rocketry Land" for me is very important. May be a Lord will make this miracle.

Dear Montaro,
All rocketeers in Russia know each other because us is not a lot. We enthusiasts. Everyone chooses the way itself. My way is legal sale of motors and rocket kits, working out of educational programs for schoolboys. For three years I keep the domain and intend to open the site, but each time I stop for creating myself a new task. As soon as all will be ready, I will inform you.


So, you are creating the Старт Союз company ?

[Round]

So, you are creating the Старт Союз company ?

Yes, I have created the company Старт-Союз ( Start-Soyuz ).

On a pic the Moscow Festival of a Science 2009

[Montaro]

Yes, I have created the company Старт-Союз ( Start-Soyuz ).

On a pic the Moscow Festival of a Science 2009

Congratulation!

As soon you are ready to go to production, i'm quite sure we can do business, i'm use to buy different items for east-europe. and i would like to have one of you rocket kit !!!

Good luck !!!!

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Congratulation!

As soon you are ready to go to production, i'm quite sure we can do business, i'm use to buy different items for east-europe. and i would like to have one of you rocket kit !!!

Good luck !!!!

I will be glad to acquaintance.

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The most simple design for the two-stage rockets. Tandem HELIUM-12 0.75B1.5-2 and HELIUM-10 0.75B1.25-4.

Test video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvgK_QPsUho

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The most known rocket C-75 in LPR and MPR variants. These models for tests. Scale model in the course of working out. The basic details are made of composit materials.

[foamy]

Is that how the motors are staged? Inserted in the top?

I really like the looks of your models. Very crisp and light looking. Exactly how are you doing that? How are you painting them? You should be selling those models over here as well. Heck, motors too. Also, I think it's a great idea with the color coded wraps on the motors. No ambiguity. The streamer/nose cone assembly is an interesting twist as well.

Good stuff, Round.

[Round]

Is that how the motors are staged? Inserted in the top?

I really like the looks of your models. Very crisp and light looking. Exactly how are you doing that? How are you painting them? You should be selling those models over here as well. Heck, motors too. Also, I think it's a great idea with the color coded wraps on the motors. No ambiguity. The streamer/nose cone assembly is an interesting twist as well.

Good stuff, Round.

Thanks, Foamy,
At this model two variants of the first stage: with recovery and without recovery. Both of them on a photo. In case "without recovery" ignition "one in other". If the first stage with the streamer, ignition is transferred through a fiery tube. These rockets are painted from an airbrush. Details of rockets are made on the industrial equipment, it isn't difficult.

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My first experience on arms of the RC plane. Bombs and rockets. June, 1994.

[[POW]Eagle159]

WOW nice is that a P-51, right?:horse:
I like it!!!

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Eagle159;294210']WOW nice is that a P-51, right?:horse:
I like it!!!

Yes it is a Mustang, the remarkable plane.

[Round]

Rockets of initial level of modelling. The design is unified for HELIUM-12, HELIUM-14 and HELIUM-16. The motor type depend on weight of model.

[foamy]

My first experience on arms of the RC plane. Bombs and rockets. June, 1994.
Hey Round, is that RC Mustang shooting real scale-like rockets with motors? If so, it would be nice to show and tell more about them. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I saw a smoke trail in that last photo.

Ah, I like your mini-camando parachuter too. Pops out with no trouble?

[Round]

Hey Round, is that RC Mustang shooting real scale-like rockets with motors? If so, it would be nice to show and tell more about them. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I saw a smoke trail in that last photo.

Ah, I like your mini-camando parachuter too. Pops out with no trouble?

Hello Foamy,
About the Mustang, rockets and bombs I have made video duration about 45 minutes. At that time I had videocamera VHS Panasonic M7. In the previous message video shots are shown. Yes, on a shot rocket firing, the exhaust of the motor is visible and, if have a look attentively, a smoky trace behind the rocket.
Rockets not scale, a main objective of this experiment to check out work of all in a complex: the plane, launch system, safety devices on the rocket, the motor of the rocket, warhead and fuze. I will make a video clip.

The Parachuter receives a real kick to a.., He have no choice.

[Round]

Russian film about missile test

Loading page http://files.mail.ru/42YKWM

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HELIUM17 family and firing tests

http://youtu.be/wFbaQ7ToEeU

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... and flight test on the rocket.

http://youtu.be/x3cFUihx8ik

[Montaro]

Nice, what was the apogee ?

[Montaro]

HELIUM17 family and firing tests

http://youtu.be/wFbaQ7ToEeU

Are you already start the mass production ?

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Are you already start the mass production ?

Dear Montaro, Flights on the maximum height with altimeter ahead, the weigh of Scout-40 rocket on this video about 215 grams, the design allows to reduce weight about 50-60 grams, I'll inform you after tests.
Technologically production is ready, currently there is a process of certification of motors HELIUM-10,12,14,17 with total power up to E class and burn time 0.35-10.7 sec.

[GDJ]

... and flight test on the rocket.

http://youtu.be/x3cFUihx8ik

Nice flight! The motors seem to work very well!

[Round]

Nice flight! The motors seem to work very well!


Thanks for kind words, GDJ, I do my best for this.

[Round]

The most simple on a design the SISKIN 40 rocket for HELIUM17 up to Е class, lift off weight 125-160 g, Length: 48.3 cm, diameter: 4,08 cm, payload up to 60 g. The design allows to use it as the second stage. Video: flight on HELIUM17 0,75D-5.

http://youtu.be/WzkDPdESgTY

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Spacemodeling as educational process, summer city camp give the chance to go in for rockerty with school boys combining game and training. On this photo practical measurement of lift off velocity and height of flight of the rocket by laboratory radar.

[Round]

Video: flights of rockets in summer city camp

http://youtu.be/_4DiRUMSJpo
http://youtu.be/wYVHmN2SQlU
http://youtu.be/M39o3aBsqFo
http://youtu.be/pt3N5OUcDqU

[chadrog]

Most excellent flights Round!

[[POW]Eagle159]

NICE!

Those rockets sure do take off quickly! They must be really light.

[Round]

Thanks, Friends!

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Eagle159;349062']NICE!

Those rockets sure do take off quickly! They must be really light.

Result of measurements of a radar is 38-42 meters per second (five tests). Weight of rockets about 30-32 grams.I will try to reduce lift off weight on 8-9 grams and velocity to 30 meters per second. Such rockets can lift off directly in a school yard. The design of rockets is developed as a kit "skill level 1".

[Round]

The report about rocketry at an exhibition of scientific and technical creativity of youth. Moscow 2012.

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FAI class S4 rocket boosted gliders. Preparation for flight and launch on HELIUM 10 A1.2-3

Video http://youtu.be/8Cz-esfyK8o http://youtu.be/Js_UW63dJg8

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Rocket with recovery system base on delay of operation of a streamer for high-rise flights.

Video: http://youtu.be/4L0AsmrkJWo

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One more rocket boosted glider "SEAGULL 40", weight 50g. It is designed as a kit. Motors: HELIUM10 0.5A1.2-0 A1.2-0 B1.1-0

Video http://youtu.be/aDMF2SlpZzM http://youtu.be/bfZ8zSP6Ous
http://youtu.be/-srByht5Lhs

[GDJ]

Round, I always love your posts! Do not stop posting. :)

[[POW]Eagle159]

NICE FLIGHTS,
So the glider is radio controlled? I thought it was just a free flight glider...
Are those open holes on the wings? I have never seen that before, or is it covered with clear plastic stuff?

[Round]

Thank you Friends for attention to my work. I am pleased to share with all. SEAGULL 40 is RC glider. The holes in the wings are made for to reduce the weight of the airframe, they covered with clear plastic stuff.

[[POW]Eagle159]

Thank you Friends for attention to my work. I am pleased to share with all. SEAGULL 40 is RC glider. The holes in the wings are made for to reduce the weight of the airframe, they covered with clear plastic stuff.

Ahh That is very cool!

[qquake2k]

One more rocket boosted glider "SEAGULL 40", weight 50g. It is designed as a kit. Motors: HELIUM10 0.5A1.2-0 A1.2-0 B1.1-0

Video http://youtu.be/aDMF2SlpZzM http://youtu.be/bfZ8zSP6Ous
http://youtu.be/-srByht5Lhs

Great videos!

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Moscow Festival of science 2012.

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Guests from the future...

[Montaro]

Moscow Festival of science 2012.

Very nice Tsyklon !!!

[GDJ]

Round, you never cease to amaze me with your photographs. The rocket models show a excellent attention to detail, and I would give my left big toe just to try your motors! :)

[Round]

Montaro, especially for you ...

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Dear GDJ, I am sure that such great sacrifices will not need, I will think how to do it.

[qquake2k]

Montaro, especially for you ...

Amazing shots!

[GregGleason]

Beautiful work on the Bumper WAC B-7 round!

I appreciate the photos, too. The staging series of pics were, using qquake2k's words, amazing.

Greg

[Montaro]

Wow !!! Fairing off too, great

I'm Planing a 2 stage Soyuz-FG, now i have to thing about the fairing release :D

Thanks for the excellent shots!!!

[Round]

Preparation for the World Space Modeling Championship ... Class retro-style

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Everything is OK ... packaging ...

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... in the details

[qquake2k]

Wow, those are models?

[Round]

Wow, those are models?

Yes, it is a models and schoolchildren, and competitions are taking place now, but I hope, that already ended.

[qquake2k]

Wow, those look real! Amazing!

[chadrog]

They are beautiful, do you have any more pictures?

[Round]

They are beautiful, do you have any more pictures?

Dear Chadrog, At the most interesting moment
photo film was ended, I will take pictures on Championship ...

[chadrog]

Dear Chadrog, At the most interesting moment film was over, I will take pictures on Championship ...
I look forward to them, thank you.

[Round]

Rockets for high-altitude flights. Diameter body tube 18 mm, weight up to 40 grams ( in two stages). Long burn motors HELIUM-10T and HELIUM-12T with improved tracer or tandem with booster. The main task: to measure the height by on board altimeter and movies from the earth.

Pictures of the upper stages.

[GDJ]

Nice rockets!

What material are you using for the fins? I don't recognise the grain structure. Are they wood, or something else like Phenolic?

[Round]

Nice rockets!

What material are you using for the fins? I don't recognise the grain structure. Are they wood, or something else like Phenolic?


Yes, GDJ, it is specially designed for fins material based on рhenolic, good strength , low density, manufacturability.

[GDJ]

Yes, GDJ, it is specially designed for fins material based on рhenolic, good strength , low density, manufacturability.

Seems to work well. I may try this once I get tired of Basswood. ;)

[Round]

Basswood good material, but requires skill for the best result. My way easier.

[GDJ]

Basswood good material, but requires skill for the best result. My way easier.

Easier in what way? I'm curious to know.

[Round]

Easier in what way? I'm curious to know.

Production method does not require skill and experience in working with wood, in the production is iron works.

[GDJ]

Production method does not require skill and experience in working with wood, in the production is iron works.

I see. Do you use hydraulic shears and other metal cutting tools for the phenolic?

[Round]

I see. Do you use hydraulic shears and other metal cutting tools for the phenolic?

... in the final form of the fins are not processed, only edge.

[Round]

High-altitude rockets in two stages.

[qquake2k]

High-altitude rockets in two stages.

Those look really nice! How do you ignite the upper stages?

[Round]

Those look really nice! How do you ignite the upper stages?

Good question, Qquake2k, thank you. Critical cross-section of the nozzle HELIUM-10 0.95 mm, internal igniter at a distance of 14 mm from the end of the motor. At the upper stage used motors without any additional technical improvements. That is, the motors can be interchanged. It's easier for me to show it in the pictures, than try to tell you about it. System of ignition works with any type of propellant charge, end burning or channel, complete unification.

[qquake2k]

Good question, Qquake2k, thank you. Critical cross-section of the nozzle HELIUM-10 0.95 mm, internal igniter at a distance of 14 mm from the end of the motor. At the upper stage used motors without any additional technical improvements. That is, the motors can be interchanged. It's easier for me to show it in the pictures, than try to tell you about it. System of ignition works with any type of propellant charge, end burning or channel, complete unification.

I would love to see more photos.

[Round]

Photo with some of the events "indoors", popularization and propaganda in the "one bottle". Photo made before the Process started, then a few hours fuss, no time to shoot ...

[Round]

Congratulations to All with the Anniversary of the beginning of the Space Era of Mankind!

Rocketeers in Moscow celebrate the anniversary in their own way. Preparation and training launch of rocket

Video http://youtu.be/f_sG7qFOAz8

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Launch site and crew

VIDEO
http://youtu.be/gDO8AEyniI8


http://youtu.be/maClkwNA_Zg


http://youtu.be/UD2DSp9u4Ek--