CMASS launch 25-April

[jflis]

While not the first of the year (that was done in January :) ), it is the first launch of the season (season begun with NARCON - arbitrary, I know, but that's how I see it :) )

Who's coming out? I will be there. Hope to get flights on my Tiddlywink and Nantucket Sound, to name a few. Also hope to see several of my Boys & Girls Club kids out there as well.

What are you flying!??!

jim

[HotRod Rockets]

I'll be threre.
We are almost done with that littel project. Hotrod Nitro FireBall just needs one more build session tommorrow.

Yes Mr. Flis your idea worked, (in testing) and has been incorporated.

Should be interesting;) One way or another! No matter what, it will be thrilling!


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Edit added a photo

[jflis]

I'll be threre.
We are almost done with that littel project. Hotrod Nitro FireBall just needs one more build session tommorrow.

Yes Mr. Flis your idea worked, (in testing) and has been incorporated.

Should be interesting;) One way or another! No matter what, it will be thrilling!


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That kind of thinking has always excited me. I remember getting ready to launch my UFFO with a rainbow of twelve 60 foot streamers attached to it during Imagination Celebration at NARAM. When asked what it was going to do I said "all I can say is, one way or another, it's going to be spectacular"...

Well, with a blown nozzle, it never even left the launch pad. But it WAS spectacular! :D Especially when they had to hit it with the fire extinguisher... LOL

[BobH48]

I plan on being there.

I'm hoping to get the first flight on my Salamander-5 rocket glider.

[bobkrech]

Seven of us spent today at Bill's cleaning out the trailer and checking/repairing all the launch equipment.


All high power pads were cleaned and repainted.
All low/mid-power relay launchers were refurbished and checked out.
All cables and clip leads have been cleaned, repaired and checked out.
Radio CMASS was reprogramed to 98.9 FM and may have a background music channel.
All launch rods and rails were cleaned and sorted.
All fire extinguishers have been updated with foam heads and filled.
All pad stakes were refurbished and repainted.
New stakes for crowd control flags have been purchased.
Propane and Nitrous tanks refilled.
All food prep and storage equipment cleaned.
Several new fire blankets were obtained.
Trailer decals were cleaned and minor rust spots repainted.
If it was broke it got fixed.


Bottom line - we're all set for next weekend!

Bob

[cosmodrome]

I'll be flying the Delta E. Just finishing up some modifications after the last flight and repairs to one of the drop boosters.

[Luv2launch]

I am going to be there for sure been waiting for it for months.I have one planned flight which is going to be my Cosmodrome Aerobee Hi on a G71 to F52.And will prob bring out my King Kraken and some others but its the Aerobee that I need to put up and I am hoping for a good flight.

[cosmodrome]

I am going to be there for sure been waiting for it for months.I have one planned flight which is going to be my Cosmodrome Aerobee Hi on a G71 to F52.And will prob bring out my King Kraken and some others but its the Aerobee that I need to put up and I am hoping for a good flight.

Sweet! I love seeing the ABHi fly, but I get so streesed out flying mine. It will be good to be able to sit back and relax for this one.:D But don't worry, I'll get my dose of stress from the Delta E, although not as much now that I know the boosters drop away as planned.

[Luv2launch]

Sweet! I love seeing the ABHi fly, but I get so streesed out flying mine. It will be good to be able to sit back and relax for this one.:D But don't worry, I'll get my dose of stress from the Delta E, although not as much now that I know the boosters drop away as planned.

Yeah I gotta say the stress level is high on this launch, I wish I had some kind of low current igniter or e-match to use for the sustainer all I have right now is a first fire jr but I think I will put in a chip of blue thunder when I build the motor.

I also must say that I can't wait to see that Delta E of your fly again hopefully with better results this time.The kit of yours I am waiting on the the Titan IIIc I really like the look of the titans.

[n3tjm]

I plan on being there, with some LOC kits to sell. Will be flying mostly low - mid power.

[cosmodrome]

Yeah I gotta say the stress level is high on this launch, I wish I had some kind of low current igniter or e-match to use for the sustainer all I have right now is a first fire jr but I think I will put in a chip of blue thunder when I build the motor.

I also must say that I can't wait to see that Delta E of your fly again hopefully with better results this time.The kit of yours I am waiting on the the Titan IIIc I really like the look of the titans.

I'm dipping some igniters today. Will test them with a microTimer2 / 9V combination. I also have some other low current igniters.

I've got most of the bugs out of the Delta E. I still have a problem packing the chute into the available space. Once I have the final version ready this won't be a problem.

I'm going to concentrate on getting the Lambda and delta E released and then I plan on finishing up the X-15A and Titan IIIC. With the success of the drop boosters on the Delta E I'm considering making the Titan IIIC with drop boosters as well. Maybe if I got some people to prod me in that direction... :rolleyes:

[tonypv]

I've got 10 new rockets all making their maiden flights.

Loc Viper III
Semroc Tau Zero and SST Shuttle-1
FlisKits Thunderbird and Adfecta
Estes Interceptor E
Launch Pad Exocet AM 39
And three scratch builds Solaris, Regent (http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=2508) and Airy (http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=2210).

[n3tjm]

Mike, let me see how you fold the chutes when we are at the launch. I have a method of packing chutes in small spaces that has worked well for me for many many years (learned it from a science kit from Radioshack when I was much younger boy)

[cosmodrome]

Mike, let me see how you fold the chutes when we are at the launch. I have a method of packing chutes in small spaces that has worked well for me for many many years (learned it from a science kit from Radioshack when I was much younger boy)

Doug,

I think that it is more of the chute getting cought in the transition (it splits btween the BT and the transition with most of the chute in the transition). I think that if I reverse the shock cord and have the chute closer to the BT that will help. Of course I'm open to any help in this matter.

[bobkrech]

Any chance you can bore out the transition and run a length of BT clear thru it?

Bob

[bobkrech]

I'll be threre.
We are almost done with that littel project. Hotrod Nitro FireBall just needs one more build session tommorrow.

Yes Mr. Flis your idea worked, (in testing) and has been incorporated.

Should be interesting;) One way or another! No matter what, it will be thrilling!
I'm thinking that this is a high power rocketry record attempt. I have not heard of of any other high power rocket with 6 parallel second stages.

Bob

[cosmodrome]

Any chance you can bore out the transition and run a length of BT clear thru it?

Bob

This is how the first prototype was built. Due to changes in the kit, namely the deployable boosters and wanting to cut down on weight, I changed the design. The problem is how I had to build this temporary transition. The final design will allow more than enough room for the chute to be easily packed. Hopefully I'll have the final version ready by the fall.

[HotRod Rockets]

Originally Posted by bobkrech
I'm thinking that this is a high power rocketry record attempt.

Hmm... might be? I've never seen it done, that's the reason I got very interested when DELTA22 first made the suggestion.

Who keeps those sort of records anyway?:D

It will be a CMASS record at least!
And that's saying something.

. Already asking myself, What's next? Got this rocket project fever.:rolleyes:

more info
http://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3262



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[jflis]

Just a reminder that FlisKits will be on field with a full booth of our kits. Please take note that I don't bring parts and accessories unless specifically ordered.

If there is something on our web site that you want other than model rocket kits, please send me an email (DO NOT REPLY HERE) and I will gladly bring it along.

Remember, CMASS earns 10% on all field purchases so when you by something you are also helping out your club :)

See you folks on Saturday!
jim

[HotRod Rockets]

CMASS Amesbury April 25th

Rocket Hunters / Retrievers Needed. I need your help!

The planned launch of the Hot Rod Nitro Fireball this Saturday leaves me with an interesting dilemma that could only occur as part of such a unique launch.

How do I track and retrieve Six (yes six) separate small rockets at the same time?

I'm sure it would be an entertaining spectacle to watch me run around in the field like a headless chicken chasing rockets..... :Dbut I may have a better way.

Here's the deal,.. Bring back one of the six small rockets, I'll give you a free HotRod Rockets kit! It's that simple.
Just bring them back to HotRod Central Command ( my table ) and pick out your kit from my freebie box.

First back first pick. This is intended for Kids... or for the young at heart.

Thank you all for your support!
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[mach7]

I'll be there. I have 12 winter builds to fly. A bunch of clones, a few goonies, and a small project I've been working on- my 4x13 1x24 Estes Saturn V. Should be fun.

[n3tjm]

I will have the following selection of loc kits for sale at the upcoming launch this Saturday.

Aura $30
Weasel $35
Legacy $35
Starburst $55
Cool Spool $35
EZI-65 $80
Lil Nuke $37
Hi-Tech $56
Viper III $42
Viper IV $42
Graduator $50

I do accept checks and cash. You can also paypal me before the launch (send e-mail to me first to make sure the kit you want is not claimed.)

[markschnell]

Hey guys,

I'm in seminary in South Hamilton, Mass. So I'm planning to drive up with the fam. and check things out. Does it cost anything to park or get in? Looks like great weather on Saturday, at least temp. and Sun wise. I don't know about the wind.

Mark Schnell

Jim, if I had thought about it a bit I could have just picked my recent order up from you there and saved the shipping cost!

[tonypv]

No change unless you what to fly.
But bring money so you can get some of our hot dogs. :)

Also no parking on the field unless you have a handicap plate. Parking is at the entrance to the field.

[redsox15]

Hey all,

My brothers and will not be there on saturday due to a track meet. :( We were planning on flying our scratch built rockets on saturday but that will have to wait. I built a two-stage rocket flying on a D12-0 to a D12-7. My brother mark was going to fly his three stage (he couldn't last year due to it being unstable) so he fixed that. That is going to fly on a D12-0 to a C6-0 to a C6-7. And finally my other brother built a 3x24mm rocket flying on a central D12-7 (which will deploy the chute) and two C11-3s on either side of that. Hope you all have fun it is supposed to be gorgeous!

[HotRod Rockets]

Redsox15, please post some photos somewhere! Mybe a build thread.

If they are the rockets I think they are? They are very unique rather cool looking (flame fins?)

I remember the multi stager,;) I hope to see you guys fly it later this year!

Nice to see rockets scratch built with some independent thought process.

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[redsox15]

Hotrod,

I will try and get some pictures up of the finished fleet soon.

Matt

[redsox15]

Actually I'm not entirely sure how to post pictures. Once I do know I will post them haha :p

[mach7]

I thought I would make it, but then the flu hit me! Stinks.

I'll be there if I can but I'm not hopeful.

[CharlaineC]

Beleave it or not but I am hopeing to be their. It all depends on my gas situation. but I'll be bringing my galatic taxi clone, crusader swing wing glider, Corn-E , A-corm, and Cornroc as well as a few others even if I cant fly them.

[Luv2launch]

Beleave it or not but I am hopeing to be their. It all depends on my gas situation. but I'll be bringing my galatic taxi clone, crusader swing wing glider, Corn-E , A-corm, and Cornroc as well as a few others even if I cant fly them.

I hope you made it to the launch it was a good one.

[CharlaineC]

Sorry to say i did not make it i was stuck on rt-110 with two blown tires:bang:. I hit a car hood that fell off the back of a pickup truck:y:. I was not harmed and neither was the car behind me. 4 hours later I made it home safely. Tomarrow begins the hunt for cheap used tires. :update good new mass state police in conjunction with amsbury police found who owned the truck the hood fell off of. Hopefully their insured and it will cover new tires. guess what its a junk yard.:

[judo]

Caveat emptor. Glad to know you were not hurt.

[n3tjm]

What a beautiful day to launch rockets! Warm, and the wind cooperated most of the day (got worse towards the end of the launch). Launched a total of nine flights.

Edmond Ecee - A10-3T - Perfect Glide
Semroc Oso - C6-5
Sunward Phoenix - C6-3
Estes Der Red Max - D13-7W
Loc Legacy - F24-7W
Loc Lil Nuke - E9-4
PML MR-1 - G53-5J
Hotel Express - AMW G46-8TT
Aerotech Sumo - H238-10T

[cosmodrome]

It was indeed a beautiful day for a launch. The Delta E flew very well while deploying the three drop boosters. I did have one electrical glitch while prepping it, but I've already got that point of failure worked out. The night before I spent about three hours testing it in various ways with great success. Then I get it to the field and it won't power up. :mad: Go figure! Anyway, it looks like the design is worked out, now I just need to get the production parts ordered and ready (body tubes, laser cut parts, etc...).

[BobH48]

It was a little warm for April but better than a little cold.

I got 10 flights in.
First up was the Salamander-5 on a B6-2. It was probably a little breezier than it should have been for the first flight. It arched up under boost just like it was supposed to but during the coast phase, the wind blew it over on its back. The up flap that is supposed to push the nose over was just enough to put it into a fast inverted glide and it headed just over the trailer. When the ejection charge burned the string holding the flaps it did an inverted dive right through the door into the back of Bill's truck.

The remaining flights were uneventful.
Estes Patriot on a C6-5
FliskitsTriskelion on a C6-5
Upscale Cherokee on an F39-6T
Astron Falcon clone on a B4-2
Art Applewhite Cone on an E9-4
Fliskits Long Overdue on a C6-5
Fliskits Acme Spitfire on a D12-3
Semroc Skyhook on an A8-3
Art Applewhite Stealth on an F12-5J

The Skyhook had a streamer and it only went up on an A8-3 but it was the longest recovery walk I had all day.

[tonypv]

It was a little warm for April but better than a little cold.

I got 10 flights in.
First up was the Salamander-5 on a B6-2. It was probably a little breezier than it should have been for the first flight. It arched up under boost just like it was supposed to but during the coast phase, the wind blew it over on its back. The up flap that is supposed to push the nose over was just enough to put it into a fast inverted glide and it headed just over the trailer. When the ejection charge burned the string holding the flaps it did an inverted dive right through the door into the back of Bill's truck.

The remaining flights were uneventful.
Estes Patriot on a C6-5
FliskitsTriskelion on a C6-5
Upscale Cherokee on an F39-6T
Astron Falcon clone on a B4-2
Art Applewhite Cone on an E9-4
Fliskits Long Overdue on a C6-5
Fliskits Acme Spitfire on a D12-3
Semroc Skyhook on an A8-3
Art Applewhite Stealth on an F12-5J

The Skyhook had a streamer and it only went up on an A8-3 but it was the longest recovery walk I had all day.

Bob, you forgot to mention that Bill was in the back of the truck at the time. :p

[billspad]

Bob, you forgot to mention that Bill was in the back of the truck at the time. :p

Or the flight later in the day where the flying Porta Potty put a dent in my hood. I think this is the longest I've had a truck before it got dinged by a rocket.

I watched Bob's glider boost but lost sight of it until it came to visit me in the truck.

[jflis]

It was a great day :) Although I left my Tiddlywink at home Bill got several flights out of his.

I got to fly everything I wanted including my Nantucket Sound proto (Boris got his in the air too :) ) and also a new kit (the NERRF-5 commemorative kit).

I will post more pix later, but here's my Nantucket Sound on a D12-3

jim

[billspad]

It was a great day :) Although I left my Tiddlywink at home Bill got several flights out of his.


As a service to Jim I demonstrated everything that the end user could do wrong. You must use good masking tape to hold the motor in and you can not use a MircoMaxx NE motor. When I finally got everything right if flew great.

[n3tjm]

As a service to the club, I did not fly anything with electronics.:roll:

Ironically, still managed a lawn dart... with a E9-4.:shock: Motor had a weak ejection.

Later in the year, I am hoping to build the Ladyrobin II (depending if I get a new job or move into a refrigerator box). Similar specs to the first Ladyrobin, but with two altimeters and learning from the mistake that crashed the Phoenix, each altimeter will have its own switch. Also looking into the possibility of radio control backup.

[n3tjm]

Highlight of the launch:

http://www.gardei.com/April252009/Rocket%20Sample.jpg

Full Size :
http://www.gardei.com/April252009/Hot_Rod_Nitro_Fireball_Liftoff.jpg

http://www.gardei.com/April252009/Hot_Rod_Nitro_Fireball_Thrusting.jpg

http://www.gardei.com/April252009/Hot_Rod_Nitro_Fireball_Thrusting_2.jpg

Pictures (c) gardei.com. Please do not post elsewhere without permission.

[jflis]

As a service to Jim I demonstrated everything that the end user could do wrong. You must use good masking tape to hold the motor in and you can not use a MircoMaxx NE motor. When I finally got everything right if flew great.

"that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it", eh??? :D

I still think you could have gotten better hang time if you had hung the thing over the hot dog cooker and warped those blades just a tad... :)

[billspad]

"that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it", eh??? :D

Where else can you see every possible failure mode without getting off your chair?


I still think you could have gotten better hang time if you had hung the thing over the hot dog cooker and warped those blades just a tad... :)
I'm not greedy. If it rotates I'm happy.

[redsox15]

quick question for anyone,

How big is the tewksbury field? I have only launched at amesbury so I dont know what can be launched there and still come back down. :)

Matt

[n3tjm]

Not big. A-D, maybe F and G if you willing to risk loosing your bird. Defiently no 1:10 scale Saturn V launch there. Saving that for Amesbury :roll:j k :D

[bobkrech]

quick question for anyone,

How big is the tewksbury field? I have only launched at amesbury so I dont know what can be launched there and still come back down. :)

Matt
http://www.cmass.org/index.php?option=com_gmaps&task=viewmap&Itemid=32&mapId=3

This is the field. It's pretty small but it's what we can get locally in May due to the Spring baseball, softball, soccer and lacrosse field demands.

As shown in the photograph, it's about 450' x 500' with trees around it and rocket eating woods and swamp to the East. Strictly a low power field for rather inexpensive rockets. You want to keep it below 500', and less if there's wind.

Bob

[jflis]

http://www.cmass.org/index.php?option=com_gmaps&task=viewmap&Itemid=32&mapId=3

This is the field. It's pretty small but it's what we can get locally in May due to the Spring baseball, softball, soccer and lacrosse field demands.

As shown in the photograph, it's about 450' x 500' with trees around it and rocket eating woods and swamp to the East. Strictly a low power field for rather inexpensive rockets. You want to keep it below 500', and less if there's wind.

Bob

Bob, That image is in the restricted area. Could you pull that for others to see?

[redsox15]

Its all good I can see it. Im a member of CMASS as well as the website. But i second jim, a good idea to leave it out for others who arent members to see.

Matt

[billspad]

Its all good I can see it. Im a member of CMASS as well as the website. But i second jim, a good idea to leave it out for others who arent members to see.

Matt

The picture shows the general location. In the past we've been on at least three different parts of that field. Tewksbury likes to double book the field. Last year we showed up and found a soccer game going on so we moved to a different area. We're going to try to avoid that this year. We'd really like to find a different place to fly in May but nothing else was available.

[redsox15]

sounds good. My brothers and I hope to make it out to the next one! :)

Matt