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[cosmodrome]

Is me or did the forum search box change to Google search for everyone?

[Peartree]

It's an upgrade. WiK announced it here with some explanation...

http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=17267

[MarkII]

It's a feature, not a bug! :p Seriously, it is a huge improvement.

[UPscaler]

eoPiJOubR-4

[cosmodrome]

It's an upgrade. WiK announced it here with some explanation...

http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=17267

I know there's got to be one in every group, so I'll be it. I don't like it. It may have all these new features, but I don't like how the results are in random chronological order. I'm used to searching for a term and having the newest posts first. Can this be done or do I have to goto the advanced search? Am I missing something (wouldn't be the first time).

[Adrian A]

For me the new search is a big step backward, also. Not only does it not preserve chronological order, it doesn't keep track of which posts I've already read.

I like to periodically search on "Raven" or "Featherweight" to make sure that I read all the posts that might have any questions or issues. At least I can get that result with the advanced search, but that's significantly less convenient.

[MarkII]

I never even knew that you could use the old search function to keep track of read posts. I have no idea how one would even do that. I used the vbulletin search to look for specific posts. Or tried to. Sometimes I was successful but those were the exceptions. For example, my search for "Little Joe II" returned zero hits. The old Search function hasn't gone away, though; you can still access it by choosing "Advanced Search."

[troj]

Interesting feedback. There are obviously pros and cons to both search methods.

The awareness of read/unread, as well as age of posts is relavent. As is the fact that the standard search is stupid about anything that's 3 letters or shorter.

Having one search that can do both forums is kinda nice, too.

Good and bad to both. Perhaps the better answer is that we try to implement both?

-Kevin

[Adrian A]

I might be the only one who takes advantage of that, but you never know. Having your choice between the two would be perfect.

[rstaff3]

Directly below the google box there's an 'advanced search' link....isn't this the old search?

[troj]

Directly below the google box there's an 'advanced search' link....isn't this the old search?

Yes. The Advanced Search still uses the old search.

-Kevin

[troj]

I might be the only one who takes advantage of that, but you never know. Having your choice between the two would be perfect.

Hard telling, Adrian, unless folks speak up.

That's where feedback from the users is so valuable to us -- everyone looks at the forum differently.

-Kevin

[cosmodrome]

Hard telling, Adrian, unless folks speak up.

That's where feedback from the users is so valuable to us -- everyone looks at the forum differently.

-Kevin

That's exactly how I used it too. Hate to knock anyone's hard work. The old search did have limitations, but it was nice to search for unread posts. Will just use the advanced search for now.

[o1d_dude]

I had the opportunity to use the new Search function this morning and was somewhat put off by the random order of the results.

Maybe there's a way to add the new Google search while still keeping the old vBulletin search? I didn't find the old search under the "Advanced" heading but maybe I just didn't hold my mouth right.

Edit: I should be more specific about not finding the old search. What I get is the old search form for about 1/10th of a second which is then overwritten by a small form asking about my search preferences. The options are "clear" or "save". No matter which I select, the end result is I get the same search preference screen and the same options. No "Old Search" function at all.

[WiK]

Edit: I should be more specific about not finding the old search. What I get is the old search form for about 1/10th of a second which is then overwritten by a small form asking about my search preferences. The options are "clear" or "save". No matter which I select, the end result is I get the same search preference screen and the same options. No "Old Search" function at all.

That sounds very odd. When it works, 'Advanced Search' and the 'Old search' are exactly the same thing. I've attached a screenshot of how it *should* look, from your description I'm guessing you just see the drop-down box at the bottom with 'Save Search Preferences' and the Go button, and not the rest of the page?

If so, what browser and OS are you using? Are you running any browser addons (adblock/greasemonkey etc) which could be interfering with it?

Cheers,
Phil

[o1d_dude]

WinXP (sp3), Firefox (current 3.6.13), AdBlock Plus, NoScript, GreaseMonkey.

Come to think of it, I run a GreaseMonkey script that was posted here called the "TRF Forum Filter". It's related to filtering the "New Posts" function and was created by a TRF member(?).


// ==UserScript==
// @name TRF Forum Filter
// @namespace http://www.katapultstolpiller.com/greasemonkey/
// @description The script removes lines with content matching the filter list on the "New posts page"
// @include http://*rocketryforum.com/search.php*
// ==/UserScript==

// This is where you enter the forum sections you want to filter out.
var filter_keywords= new Array()
filter_keywords[0]="News Feeds";
filter_keywords[1]="Area 51";
filter_keywords[2]="Forum 3";
filter_keywords[3]="Forum 4";
filter_keywords[4]="Forum 5";
filter_keywords[5]="Forum 6";

// Don't edit below this line unless you know what you are doing!
var allElements, thisElement;
allElements = document.getElementsByTagName('tr');
for (var i = 0; i < allElements.length; i++) {
thisElement = allElements[i];
for (var n = 0; n < filter_keywords.length; n++) {
if(i>6){
if(thisElement.innerHTML.indexOf(filter_keywords[n])!=-1)
{
thisElement.style.display = 'none';
}
}
}


In reviewing this user script, I see it goes through the search.php routine so that's probably what's causing the problem. I will disable GreaseMonkey and see what effect it has.

Edit: Never mind. That was the problem. I will just have to remember to disable GM when I need to use the advanced search function.

[Stymye]

That's exactly how I used it too. Hate to knock anyone's hard work. The old search did have limitations, but it was nice to search for unread posts. Will just use the advanced search for now.

"unread posts" and "search" are seperate functions.
"unread posts" is on the main page,thats all

[bguffer]

Hard telling, Adrian, unless folks speak up.

That's where feedback from the users is so valuable to us -- everyone looks at the forum differently.

-Kevin

I use the advanced search 90% of the time i search on rocketryforum. Just tried an advanced search, and that seems ok. Didn't care for the google search results, but i don't know what the upsides to the google supplied search are either.

Bob

[cosmodrome]

"unread posts" and "search" are seperate functions.
"unread posts" is on the main page,thats all

I know this. I'm not looking for ALL new posts, just new post that contain 'cosmodrome'. Neither 'New Posts' nor the Google search will do this.

[luke strawwalker]

eoPiJOubR-4

LOVE that quote!!! Use it with my wife all the time...

"Honey, how about we rearrange the furniture-- change the drapes or something... do some "spring cleaning"??? How about you rearrange your rocket area??

"Count me out... WE FEAR CHANGE!!!"

:D:kill::p:rofl:;)

Later! OL JR :)

[UPscaler]

LOVE that quote!!! Use it with my wife all the time...

"Honey, how about we rearrange the furniture-- change the drapes or something... do some "spring cleaning"??? How about you rearrange your rocket area??

"Count me out... WE FEAR CHANGE!!!"

:D:kill::p:rofl:;)

Later! OL JR :)

EXCELLENT! :wink:


-Braden

[Adrian A]

I know this. I'm not looking for ALL new posts, just new post that contain 'cosmodrome'. Neither 'New Posts' nor the Google search will do this.

I'm getting used to using the advanced search for this. Just a couple extra clicks, and it's actually a little better behaved on my iPhone than the old regular search was.