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JAL3
20th October 2010, 07:29 PM
Layne Pemberton's Kraken is a nice variation of the tube finned rocket theme. Instead of 6, he relies on 4 and those are mitered to achieve a unique look. I have a Kraken sitting around someplace but it has not yet been built. I have built the King Kraken and it was a very nice rocket. In fact it was so nice, that some kids driving by decided to toss it into their truck and drive off.:bangbang:

I painted mine black but went with a dark purple for the inside of the tubes. I also used some pink to highlight the edges, much as is seen in some teuthological specimens.

The build thread is in the archive here: http://www.rocketryforumarchive.com/showthread.php?t=48636

The albums are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23694991@N03/collections/72157607641037578/

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I copied this post into the thread

o1d_dude
2nd December 2010, 09:11 PM
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CG Zaft
2nd December 2010, 09:29 PM
Here is my downscale of Larry Brand's Flatblack.

18mm minimum diameter. All parts made from typing paper. Designed for schoolkids to build without needing a knife. Streamer recovery. Flies straight as an arrow.

chadrog
2nd December 2010, 11:13 PM
This tuber was one of those things that come to you in a wierd dream and somehow becomes a reality. It has tube-within-tube fins, and the tubes themselves make up a portion of the airframe. It is four inch diameter and fies great on G's. I've dubbed it "Baconator". This link is to it's most recent flight on a G64.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8Bo5cBQcQ

jFlds
3rd December 2010, 09:34 AM
I do so enjoy tubefin rockets...

Nice fleet.

:cool:

Rocketjunkie
3rd December 2010, 10:41 AM
I've had 2 recently, a 3" upscale Groove Tube and You Gotta be Nuts, a 4" rocket made from Planter's nut cans. Both had 54 mm motor mounts.

spacecadet
3rd December 2010, 05:37 PM
'Carry on at your Convenience', made entirely out of toilet roll tubes. Streamer of appropriate material as well.

Pem Tech
3rd December 2010, 09:48 PM
This tuber was one of those things that come to you in a wierd dream and somehow becomes a reality. It has tube-within-tube fins, and the tubes themselves make up a portion of the airframe. It is four inch diameter and fies great on G's. I've dubbed it "Baconator". This link is to it's most recent flight on a G64.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8Bo5cBQcQ

Ohhhhhhh
I likes' dat'

Good work. Dare we ask about the dream?
:eyepop:

chadrog
4th December 2010, 12:27 AM
Good work. Dare we ask about the dream?

Nothing too out of the ordinary, just rockets and cured pork products...
Less than coincidental was the fact that this idea came right when I started taking the latest and greatest drug to quit smoking. The good news is I quit smoking...
Here's a couple shots of the bottom end.

JAL3
9th December 2010, 03:39 AM
OK, I'll be the first to admit that there's not much to this one. It's a simple build and the tubes are precolored as is the nosecone. As best I can recall, there is just one simple decal. Even so, I suspect that this is a rather ubiquitous rocket especially among new members of the rocket community. I say that because, except for Estes, this one seemed to be the one rocket that just about all the hobby shops around here have. I can't believe that nobody has dressed one up.

Mine is just stock but kids seem to like it. My TRF thread for it is here: http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=7458

---------------EDIT
This is just a copied post from the Razor gallery I started.

FWIW, the Centuri Groove Tube was one of my favorites as a kid.

o1d_dude
9th December 2010, 04:34 AM
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chadrog
9th December 2010, 05:28 AM
Indeed it was a G64. I'm going to fly it on an H next year. I'll have to modify the nosecone to do so, but I have 'till the snow is gone to get that done-for obvious reasons.

jFlds
9th December 2010, 09:45 AM
Nice flight. Could be a bit if problem in the snow finding that one! :D

I am being slowly inspired to embark on a tubefin build!

:cry::wink:

chadrog
9th December 2010, 10:39 AM
Nice flight. Could be a bit if problem in the snow finding that one! :D

I am being slowly inspired to embark on a tubefin build!

:cry::wink:

The snow is definately the problem with this one now, I either have to repaint it or wait five months. I have been kickin around the idea of painting the whole thing like bacon- in shades of red, brown, n' fat. Gettin' hungry now! I strongly recomend you build one, it's a great way to use up random parts. And don't be afraid to think outside the box, you'll be surprised what you find there- I know I always am.

hcmbanjo
10th December 2010, 01:34 AM
Here's my tube finned rocket -

The PIPELINE
It's one of my Odd'l Rockets kits.

This one is a little different, it has three tubes instead of the standard six.
The tubes are slightly canted to give it a good spin during boost. You can see it spinning in flight.

The first prototype had too much angle on the tubes. It's second flight with a B6-4 spun too fast and shreaded the tubes right off it! My mistake, those first tubes were painted off the model and just surface glued with super glue.

The production model is great now and a favorite flyer. The pictures are from a NEFAR launch with a C6-5. That was a screamer!

JAL3
10th December 2010, 01:37 AM
Here's my tube finned rocket -

The PIPELINE
It's one of my Odd'l Rockets kits.

This one is a little different, it has three tubes instead of the standard six.
The tubes are slightly canted to give it a good spin during boost. You can see it spinning in flight.

The first prototype had too much angle on the tubes. It's second flight with a B6-4 spun too fast and shreaded the tubes right off it! My mistake, those first tubes were painted off the model and just surface glued with super glue.

The production model is great now and a favorite flyer. The pictures are from a NEFAR launch with a C6-5. That was a screamer!

There would certainly be nothing wrong with this one having its own gallery section...hint...hint:wink:

jeff_in_AZ
10th December 2010, 06:53 PM
Here's one of mine. It's made from paper, inspired by the
NAR Paper Tiger design, called the Tubular Tiger, uses
streamer recovery. It's a good way to use up some of the
surplus A8-3's I seem to have aquired over time.

jeff

JAL3
12th December 2010, 11:11 PM
My Cyclotron was the vehicle of dashe L2 dreams. It was an easy build and was quite dependable with H and I motors. I tried to used it for an L2 qualification flight and made a lousy motor choice. It looked really nice for the first few dozen feet as it went up. It was much less nice as it disintegrated after that.

I went with a simple scheme of charcoal and bronze and printed the LOC decals out on label paper. It wasn't the best in the world but I wanted to try it and see how it went.

My TRF thread on this rocket is here: http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=6985

The albums are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23694991@N03/collections/72157622686424094/

brianc
13th December 2010, 01:26 AM
A few years ago, I slapped together the first one for the NAR Section
to have on hand for spectators (can't have young kids come to a
launch and not fly a rocket)!

It's made from scrap tubes and one of those ugly Estes Sidewinder
cones that come in a multi-pak. Rattle can paint from Wally World.

The Thrustline Mars Probe isn't a traditional tube rocket, but it does
have a couple of rings, so I guess it counts. ;) It's finished with
DupliColor Metalcast paint.

UPscaler
13th December 2010, 02:40 AM
Why not machbusting tube fin rockets?


SAAYYY WHAATTT???

His name is Justyn Palmer, be sure to keep your eye on Rockets magazine:wink: (Hint:Turtleosis)


-Braden

JAL3
13th December 2010, 02:48 AM
Why not machbusting tube fin rockets?


SAAYYY WHAATTT???

His name is Justyn Palmer, be sure to keep your eye on Rockets magazine:wink: (Hint:Turtleosis)


-Braden

That's just fine with me and, assuming its legit, I would copy the post into both threads.

JAL3
14th December 2010, 04:36 PM
If I understand correctly, this is a design by Doug Sams and sold by Squirrel Works. It is a cool tube fin sustainer with 6 conventional fins on the booster. That's right, it is a staged tube fin rocket.

It is designed for 24mm motors and I don't fly the 2 stage configuration very often because I kind of like it and want to get it all back. Even as a single stage, it performs well.

My unimaginative paint scheme just follows the face card. The upper stage is yellow and the lower stage is orange. It's simple but effective, especially with the simple decal to set it off.

My build thread on TRF is here: http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=3466

The photo albums are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23694991@N03/collections/72157618936129577/

o1d_dude
14th December 2010, 05:54 PM
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MartyAMC
14th December 2010, 06:47 PM
I used Layne's original design as the basis for my successful level 3 cert flight last summer.

144" Tall, 10" Diameter,

Here's a link to my photobucket album of photos and videos.

http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g309/MartyAMC/Successful%20Level%20III%20Kraken-Up/

o1d_dude
14th December 2010, 08:09 PM
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Pem Tech
15th December 2010, 04:47 AM
Marty, that's one crazy big Kraken!

The gear cam vid really shows how straight up vertical tubefins fly and with no rotation.

Has Layne P seen this yet?

Yep!
And we be proud!
:horse:

JAL3
17th December 2010, 04:39 PM
Here's another tube fin I found in my inventory. It was a bit of a disappointment when I realized that it was a RTF but I understand it is available as a kit as well. It's from a company called ModelRockets.US and is called the Toob'oh.

I can't complain about its performance. Its minimum diameter and can easily get lost on a B. Little kids seem to like it and I've flown it a lot because they choose it.

UPscaler
18th December 2010, 05:06 AM
Nice flight. Could be a bit if problem in the snow finding that one! :D

I am being slowly inspired to embark on a tubefin build!

:cry::wink:
You can hop on the bandwagon with my dad and I!

We're starting a 3 inch diameter 6 foot tall tube fin rocket, with six tube fins, and a 54mm mount to accomodate L's. Should hit a little over 7k feet on one :cool2:

-Braden

chadrog
31st December 2010, 06:24 PM
Saturday, Jan 1st. Is "stubby rocket day" at our monthly club launch. I baconized the baconator for better snow visibility. Funny thing is it's 54 degrees here right now and all of the snow is gone! Oh well, no such thing as too much bacon.

o1d_dude
1st January 2011, 02:26 AM
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o1d_dude
3rd April 2011, 08:25 PM
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mcderek
11th April 2011, 01:55 AM
Here is my LOC Cyclotron with an alphabet theme. If the field dries in time it will have it's first flight this weekend.

mcderek
11th April 2011, 01:58 AM
While I'm at it here are a Big Tube Bertha and an E-Pod. They to are slated for maiden flights this weekend.

JAL3
11th April 2011, 02:04 AM
Here is my LOC Cyclotron with an alphabet theme. If the field dries in time it will have it's first flight this weekend.

That looks nice. Did you paint the letters or are they some kind of decal/sticker?

mcderek
11th April 2011, 04:07 AM
That looks nice. Did you paint the letters or are they some kind of decal/sticker?

Thanks!. They are vinyl. The package say 'permanent' on it. We shall see:)

epickett
19th April 2011, 04:41 PM
Nice flight. Could be a bit if problem in the snow finding that one! :D

I am being slowly inspired to embark on a tubefin build!

:cry::wink:

You don't HAVE any yet? I thought you did...

Scotty Dog
21st July 2011, 02:12 PM
Guess Ill post this pic in here. Flys real nice on "Bs"

qquake2k
21st July 2011, 03:12 PM
Here is my scratch built Pipe Dream, the ugliest rocket I've ever made. It does fly well, though. One of the fins broke off during its last flight, I still need to repair it.

rstaff3
21st July 2011, 03:44 PM
Youse guys have a bunch of great looking models there!

Here are my tubers (L-to-R):

1. AquaBottleBat - A 29mm mailing tube rocket inspired by Larry Brand's EMRR reviews. Nose cone is a foam-filled AquaPod water bottle. I found that, if you build the fin can using the inner telescoping tube, the fins are flush with the body. Make lugs/rail buttons easier, uses up all the extra inside tubing from projects that only needed couplers and the fin can is easily removable in case a replacement is needed (held in with the screw from the rail button and pop rivets).
2. El Tubo Loco - A 29mm, 4" dia, mailing tube rocket using the same fin can concept.
3. Mini-Toobah - A 13mm version of Dave Webber's Toober, an HPR rocket that is pushing 300 flights. Can't believe I recovered it.
4. Never Say Never - Build from leftovers and 5 Folgers coffee bins. Details here: http://rocketdungeon.blogspot.com/2011/07/launch-report-2011-x.html

qquake2k
21st July 2011, 04:23 PM
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Hey Kit! Where are all your tubers?

RandyT0001
18th August 2011, 03:24 AM
My level one rocket. Scratch built.

Zetoyoc
26th August 2011, 07:47 PM
Thought I would share my FSI Viking. I love the way it looks and flies. One of my first kits too.

-Z

JAL3
26th August 2011, 08:08 PM
Thought I would share my FSI Viking. I love the way it looks and flies. One of my first kits too.

-Z

That looks great and belongs here. With your permission, I'd like to copy it to start an FSI Viking Gallery.

May I?

Which Viking is it? I'm not familiar with the various permutations and only know that there were at least 5.

Zetoyoc
26th August 2011, 08:26 PM
I actually had to look it up. It is the Viking 1 BMS clone. You may copy this anywhere you like. You guys are great :)

-Z

gpoehlein
27th August 2011, 01:09 AM
Here's a great shot of my tube daddy going up on three C6 motors in adapters (It is designed to fly on three E9 motors, but it was too windy for anything beyond the Cs).

Fishhead
13th October 2011, 01:59 AM
My just-finished Centuri Groove Tube BT-56 upscale. I was incredibly proud of this one because I did everything myself, decals included. (It seemed like a big deal at the time.:wink:)

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/BT-56basedCenturiGrooveTube.jpg

Launch sequence at VOA. One second it was there, then it weren't. I searched for an hour and since it landed near the road, I really thought someone had driven off with it.:mad:

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/GrooveTubepre-launchportrait.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/GrooveTubeeruption.jpg

The next spring when I showed up for a launch, another QUARKer gave me this.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/RemainsofGrooveTube.jpg

I rebuilt it, flew it at NARAM 47, and this time the field got to keep it.:o

gpoehlein
30th October 2011, 03:46 AM
Here's my latest tube fin model - a kit bash of the Estes Firehawk (short build thread in the Scratchbuild section). Briefly, I carved the fins off the fin can and glued six 1-1/8" BT-20 tube fins to the plastic motor mount (I'm using the retainer as is). I glued a launch lug to the silver tube and painted all the red parts with red Tamiya acrylic. Can't wait to fly it!

bourney
8th March 2012, 10:46 AM
Here's my Kraken inspired 3 inch tube fin.

Blue Tube, 54mm motor.

Suffered a major zipper on my first L2 attempt with motor based ejection, but came good following a rebuild anti-zipper style and with electronic deployment.

stealth6
8th March 2012, 02:01 PM
A prototype/work-in-progress that I posted in another thread:


First off, please excuse the build/finish quality on this - this is just a prototype. I did not put a lot of time/energy into quality on this, it was just to test out how this might work. I plan to build a nicer version of this at some point.

Basically, the tube fins pierce the airframe. There are no centering rings, as the internal portions of the tube fins anchor the motor tube. As well the airframe itself tapers down (sort of a boat-tail) along the length of the fins. And finally, I heavily tapered the leading/trailing edges of the tubes.

btw - the prototype worked; I test fired this just a short time ago and it flew great.


http://rocketryforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=72498&d=1329701710

GrossApproximator
8th March 2012, 05:34 PM
I like your idea Stealth6 :)

bourney
9th March 2012, 09:06 AM
Nice one stealth. I had wanted to try this idea out but wasn't sure how it would turn out.

In the 4th photo from the rear I thought I'd be able to see the section of the tube fin that pierces the body. Perhaps by the end of the taper the entire tube is on the outside?

MarkII
9th March 2012, 11:20 AM
Previously posted in the FSI Viking gallery (http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=25847), here is a collage of my Vikings I, II, II and IV.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5m8-moD2v8E/TlxvYGA6nxI/AAAAAAAABFY/b33hj6tBt5M/s512/2011-08-291.jpg?gl=US

qquake2k
9th March 2012, 01:44 PM
Previously posted in the FSI Viking gallery (http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?t=25847), here is a collage of my Vikings I, II, II and IV.

Very nice! That glass table makes them look like they're on water. Cool effect.

jFlds
11th March 2012, 12:48 PM
This is a scratch build I did with parts from 3 crashed or retired birds from our fleet. Turned it really nice and flies straight as an arrow. Going up on a Kosdon I145 Dirty Harry.

Fishhead
3rd April 2012, 06:52 AM
FSI Viking 4, BT-70 upscale.:cool:

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking4glamourshot.jpg

Flight was very cool. A nice, slow liftoff and big, curving windcock to the east. Looking forward to flying this one in zero wind. :rolleyes:

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking4ignition.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking4liftoff.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking4clearstherod.jpg

Recovery was eventful as the 12" chute brought the Viking 4 in a little hot. It stuck the landing at an angle. :D

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking4sticksthelanding.jpg

Fishhead
3rd April 2012, 06:54 AM
FSI Viking 3. Pretty much a 1:1 clone, but with Estes parts.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3glamourshot.jpg

Even with a C6-7 this was an impressive flight. Followed the same flight path as all of the E9 flights, but lower and at a steeper angle. The streamer brought it almost straight down and it wound up as my longest walk and toughest find of the day.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3ignition.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3liftoff.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3recovery.jpg

JAL3
3rd April 2012, 07:24 AM
FSI Viking 3. Pretty much a 1:1 clone, but with Estes parts.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3glamourshot.jpg

Even with a C6-7 this was an impressive flight. Followed the same flight path as all of the E9 flights, but lower and at a steeper angle. The streamer brought it almost straight down and it wound up as my longest walk and toughest find of the day.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3ignition.jpg



http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3liftoff.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/Viking3recovery.jpg

I'd sure like to copy these Vikings to the Viking gallery.

May I?

Fishhead
3rd April 2012, 10:46 AM
I'd sure like to copy these Vikings to the Viking gallery.

May I?

Sure.
Sorry. I didn't realize they had their own gallery. I thought they got grouped under tube fins.

JAL3
3rd April 2012, 02:31 PM
Sure.
Sorry. I didn't realize they had their own gallery. I thought they got grouped under tube fins.

Not a problem.

Generally, everything has its own gallery section. Then there are things like "Tube Fin" that serve as catch alls and include both production models and scratch builds.

Fishhead
3rd April 2012, 07:20 PM
Not a problem.

Generally, everything has its own gallery section. Then there are things like "Tube Fin" that serve as catch alls and include both production models and scratch builds.

Well, all of my other Vikings are in the Viking section, but I chose to put this batch in the tube finned section. How dumb is that?:blush::eyeroll::D
Heavy sigh. Heavy, heavy sigh.:confused2:

Rocketbuilder
19th July 2012, 07:45 PM
While I was uploading pictures of some of my rockets, I decided to revive this gallery thread, too.
My first and so far only tube finned rocket, the Wipeout. It's made entirely out of toilet paper and toilet paper tubes, including the nose cone, centering rings, launch lugs, and motor tube. Nose weight? Glue soaked toilet paper. :p
The shock cord was also made out of strips of TP tubes, but it broke on it's first flight. I still need to repair it, this time I think with a braided TP tube strip shock cord. :wink: It flies great on a C6, but the 5 second delay is a little long. Next flight will be on a C6-3.
Yes, those are adhering bits of TP stuck all over it. :roll:
Enjoy!
9079490795

Scotty Dog
19th July 2012, 09:00 PM
HOLLY CRAP!
love the name

Rocketbuilder
19th July 2012, 10:20 PM
Thanks. :) The name was actually suggested by my Dad on the way to go launch it, partly because that was his expectation of its performance, being made of TP tubes and all... Needless to say, it stuck.
And I had a big "I told you so" moment when it lifted off. :D
I may have to concede defeat and put a parachute in it, though. It didn't have one on its first flight because I couldn't figure out how to make one out of cardboard tubes. It was so light it just utilized "tumble recovery."
We'll see though, I may weave one out of cardboard strips. :rolleyes:

qquake2k
19th July 2012, 11:46 PM
While I was uploading pictures of some of my rockets, I decided to revive this gallery thread, too.
My first and so far only tube finned rocket, the Wipeout. It's made entirely out of toilet paper and toilet paper tubes, including the nose cone, centering rings, launch lugs, and motor tube. Nose weight? Glue soaked toilet paper. :p
The shock cord was also made out of strips of TP tubes, but it broke on it's first flight. I still need to repair it, this time I think with a braided TP tube strip shock cord. :wink: It flies great on a C6, but the 5 second delay is a little long. Next flight will be on a C6-3.
Yes, those are adhering bits of TP stuck all over it. :roll:
Enjoy!

Love it!

luke strawwalker
20th July 2012, 03:02 AM
This tuber was one of those things that come to you in a wierd dream and somehow becomes a reality. It has tube-within-tube fins, and the tubes themselves make up a portion of the airframe. It is four inch diameter and fies great on G's. I've dubbed it "Baconator". This link is to it's most recent flight on a G64.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8Bo5cBQcQ

That's a cool looking rocket... it looks like some kind of experimental warp drive probe or something...

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
20th July 2012, 03:11 AM
Thought I would share my FSI Viking. I love the way it looks and flies. One of my first kits too.

-Z

What paint did you use on that... it looks FANTASTIC! OL JR :)