View Full Version : Finally got to fly
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:16 AM
For the first time in a long time, I was able to get out and fly. And fly I did. :)
On the 24th, the NARHAMS postponed April launch was held. The weather was
threatening, so very few showed up. This was a blessing and a curse. :blush:
I usually pack many more rockets than I could possibly fly, and get some of the
spectator kids to help launch. I get the fun of watching my rockets go, they
have the fun of launching. Works for all of us. On the 24th I had to do most of
my own flying. :D
The morning started out partly cloudy, by the afternoon, on and off sprinkles.
But we flew all day.:w:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:25 AM
In no particular order: A couple of maxes. An Estes Der Red Max, and Mini Max
sitting happily on the pad.
The Mini Max was first to go. A fun 13mm rocket. A3-4T
Next is the Red Max. I did switch out the parachute for a long streamer. B6-4
One more pic of the Max to load
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:30 AM
This is a scratch clone of the D.A.R.T.
BT60 18mm motor (B6-4 this flight). Paper nose cone. Very long streamer
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:38 AM
My BT50 payload rocket I built to fly the Quest altimeter in. The Altimeter
flashed 258 feet on a B6-4. I know I can build better.;)
Next to the Alti is the Goontracer. The Goontracer only flew O.K. (B6-4).
There was a very pronounced corkscrew on this flight. :o
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:49 AM
This one I was concerned about. The 57 Gooney. The use of "Exhaust Pipe" for
two sets of fins, just didn't look like they would work. A quick post here on TRF
and a reply from Sandman, put me at ease. She flew great.:D
This is an upscale of the Lucky 7. BT80, 18mm motor (B6-4, I bought a bulk
pack :cool:), Paper transition. Very straight boost, but I had a shock cord
sep. It looks like the knot I tied in the shock cord came undone. :blush:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 02:56 AM
The Goblin has always been one of my favorite rockets. The 24 mm version,
just flies too high some times. I built this clone as an 18mm. It still performs
great.
This next rocket I saw in the book, "The Dream Machines." I don't remember
what is was called, but I liked the X-15ish looks. I have one fin misaligned, so
this 13mm rocket has a strong spin on the way up.:rolleyes:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:02 AM
This sequence of the Vector Goon speaks for itself.:y::shock:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:06 AM
This is my goony version of the Estes plan "Ganymede". A perfect Flight.:jaw:
Next is the Goonyflash.
I'm really happy I bought all those B6-4s:D
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:14 AM
Here are a couple of my Secret Santa Goonies. The Goonybird Zero. A great
flier.
And the Nike Goon. I had a slight problem putting the decals on this rocket. I
don't know, this rocket just doesn't grab me in person the way it did on the web
site. :confused2:
zog139
27th April 2010, 03:19 AM
Nice pictures Mike ! :confused2:
I dont see any of my rockets anywhere ?
I know my models are not as cool as yours but you could have posted a picture of at least one of my models :D ...........
Fuh-get about it ! I'm just razzin you. Glad to see you make it to the launch
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:23 AM
For this rocket, I got the idea from the cover of an Harrington novel. :cool:
I think it looks great, and the ducted ejection charge is different.
This 18mm rocket I put up on an C6-5. Great flight. But maybe a 24mm
version is in the future. :clap:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:30 AM
Another rocket that was inspired by a books cover art. The Marine Lander.
This rocket generated lots of interest in how the PPBs would act as fins. I
can say they work very well. There was a spin on the way up,( not coning),
but I don't know if it was because of the PPBs or the "feet" on the lander legs.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:39 AM
A couple of Kits.
The Quest Raptor. Very pretty. Nice flier. Just don't make the same mistake
as I did. :o I ready my rockets the night before a launch. It was kind of late,
and I had two rockets left to get ready, the Raptor, and a two stager. I put
the C6-7 :eyepop: into the Raptor.:y: Lets just say I had a nice parabolic
flight.
The next is the Custom SLV. Nice build nice flight.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:48 AM
The next rockets are two that I built specifically for those key chain cameras.
First is the Atlas V. The camera is in a recess in the top shroud. It is a four
motor cluster. Two central 18mm mounts, two 13mm drop off pods. The idea
was to put two Quest long burn C6-5s in the core, and two high spike A10-3t
in the pods. This way the camera would film the pods dropping off, and then
the continued thrust of the 18mm. The rocket worked, the camera didn't. :confused2:
I don't know why.
The next is an BT80 based Two 24mm cluster. The camera goes in the side pods. The
elastic shock chord burned through. I did find the bottom half. Again no movie.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:55 AM
I've shown this rocket before. BT80 24mm motor rocket called the "Starfire",
after the Teen Titan character. She was my favorite back in the day.
The XL-5 is a larger version I'd built for compostite 24mm reloads I have. I
thought I could get by with a short delay BP D12-3. Nope. WAY to low when
ejection charge went off.
FatBoy
27th April 2010, 03:59 AM
Cool rockets and cool pictures. I love your GooneyTracer!
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 03:59 AM
Here are those fast foes, the Goonrion, and the Torrelligoon.
I afraid the Goonrion is the looser here. She had a definite cone on the way up.
NjCo
27th April 2010, 04:03 AM
Great pics! Thanks for sharing. I love all the goonies. :)
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 04:03 AM
The Torrelligoon gave an arrow straight flight. A far better performer than the
Goonrion.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 04:09 AM
Last pics are of a Goony V-1. Very pretty flight.
Unfortunately the rain had some how started the inkjet decals to start running.:mad: That happened to a few of the rockets that got wet.
I don't understand how that can happen. I mean, you do have to put the
decals in WATER to get them to work.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 04:10 AM
A great big thanks to Jim Filler, and NARHAMS for letting me fly, even in the
rain.
Thanks.
NjCo
27th April 2010, 04:29 AM
Last pics are of a Goony V-1. Very pretty flight.
Looks like a Missiletoe clone.
Bone Daddy
27th April 2010, 04:31 AM
Great to see the book lander finally fly. This is one of my favorite rocket designs.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 06:41 AM
Looks like a Missiletoe clone.
Yep, that's what Estes released. This is what was originally planned.
http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showthread.php?t=1628&page=12&pp=10&highlight=goony
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 06:54 AM
Nice pictures Mike ! :confused2:
I dont see any of my rockets anywhere ?
I know my models are not as cool as yours but you could have posted a picture of at least one of my models :D ...........
Fuh-get about it ! I'm just razzin you. Glad to see you make it to the launch
You flew something? :confused: Yes, I saw your flights, it's just that I'm
prepping at those times. So I watch, but don't click. :blush:
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 07:03 AM
Cool rockets and cool pictures. I love your GooneyTracer!
Thanks, if I were going to do another build, I'd increase the span on the tail.
Mike Howie
27th April 2010, 07:13 AM
Great to see the book lander finally fly. This is one of my favorite rocket designs.
Thank you very much. I am pleased with how she turned out. I just wish I
could have figured out how to mask the metallic paint without it turning dull.
Ya know, Sunward has those new nose cones for the BT70, and BT80. Upscale
anyone? Just have to find bigger balls.
hcmbanjo
27th April 2010, 01:50 PM
Thanks for re-posting the "Goonybirds that never were" drawings. I'd read about them but never saw it the first time around.
That white X-15 is sweet!
Good for you getting in so many flights in one day. I'm lucky to get in five or six in an afternoon.
Micromeister
27th April 2010, 01:55 PM
As always Very Nifty lookin Models Mike.
Your finishing is coming right along LOL!! See I told ya you could do it. Looks like you've been goony bit.. some a pretty cool looking.
Using foot pads as part of the stabilizing for my Turkey trottin Odd-Roc I'm pretty sure it's the foot pads not the PPB's that cause spin. the balls look pretty darn evenly spaced on that model where those little landing pads can be canted just slightly enough to induce a spin. Great looking rocket with or without spin:)
Sorry I missed the launch....had to use the time to prepare to help out at the May meeting finishing demo. I'm hoping to present wet sanding. Spent the morning making a couple bad paint jobs. Should be a fun, Hope you might be able to make it?
dragon_rider10
28th April 2010, 07:10 PM
I've seen a term here I don't recognize. What's "Coning"?
Mike Howie
29th April 2010, 12:23 AM
I've seen a term here I don't recognize. What's "Coning"?
Coning is a descriptive term of the flight profile. The rocket is stable, it flies
with the nose straight up, but the rear of the rocket goes in a circle. So it
forms a cone.
Spinning spins the rocket through the center axis, coning has the bottom of the
rocket moving around a point outside the body tube. It can be seen in rockets
with too much nose weight.
cjl
29th April 2010, 01:09 AM
Coning is a descriptive term of the flight profile. The rocket is stable, it flies
with the nose straight up, but the rear of the rocket goes in a circle. So it
forms a cone.
Spinning spins the rocket through the center axis, coning has the bottom of the
rocket moving around a point outside the body tube. It can be seen in rockets
with too much nose weight.
Too much nose weight alone should not cause coning. Coning is caused when for some reason, the restorative force is not quite directly opposite the direction of perturbation. This could happen if the fins were not truly perpendicular to the body tube, or if they were not radially symmetric around the body tube.
Landshark
29th April 2010, 03:14 AM
Very nice launch photos! I just finished an SLV and a Goonie Bird Zero myself, but neither have flown just yet.
I'm on somewhat of a BT-80 kick lately and I notice your Lucky 7 upscale. Looks like fun...what did you end up using for a nose cone for that one?
Mike Howie
29th April 2010, 04:29 PM
Too much nose weight alone should not cause coning. Coning is caused when for some reason, the restorative force is not quite directly opposite the direction of perturbation. This could happen if the fins were not truly perpendicular to the body tube, or if they were not radially symmetric around the body tube.
Yep, completely correct. I've most noticed it on the rockets I design that have
weird fins, and I compensate by slapping to much nose weight in.
Mike Howie
29th April 2010, 04:34 PM
I'm on somewhat of a BT-80 kick lately and I notice your Lucky 7 upscale. Looks like fun...what did you end up using for a nose cone for that one?
I used VCT to make a file folder paper nose. A core BT20 with decreasing sized
centering rings for strength.BT80 down to the core BT20. Then the nose cone
part that ejects, BT20 down to 1/8 in dowel.
JAL3
10th April 2011, 11:49 PM
Bumped for gallery harvesting
boomtube
11th April 2011, 07:00 PM
You actually fly those things?
It’s been so long I had forgotten what they were for.
The pointy end goes up right?
Which “Harrington” novel?
I have them all and can’t remember seeing anything that looked like that.
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