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I'm a little lost. Since you need to go faster through the air, doesn't that mean you need mor force pulling you along, i.e. more thrust? What is that greater pitch getting you if not more thrust?
The air is less dense, which is why air-breathing engines and wings and propellers don’t work as well at higher altitudes, all other things being equal (nor do lungs, but that’s a different discussion).

Since an electric motor doesn’t care about the less dense air (with the caveats discussed above) one has the ability to work on the wing and prop without also having to deal with less available shaft power. What one needs is more thrust at speed, rather than more static thrust (mass is the same, drag is lower in the less dense air). The wing needs to go faster to develop the same amount of lift, and adding prop pitch is an easy way get that, given that the wing is going through that lower density air.

I did, when I was doing these crude tests, I did also do static thrust measurements via a digital fish scale hooked to the horizontal stabilizer of the airplane, and generally tried to add pitch to the point I got similar values to that at sea level. I would have to go back and find notes that are at least two decades old to see about static RPMs in these situations. I just don’t remember.

This is also why those seeking rocket altitude records (see Adrian’s threads and others) like to launch from high altitude fields. They don’t have to deal with the first, say, 8000 feet of dense atmosphere and of course a rocket motor, being a rocket and carrying its own oxidizer, also doesn’t really care about lower density air for its performance.
 
OK, pretty much all of that is well known to me. In passing, though, you dropped a hint to my fallacy.

You need to go faster, and that would need more thrust (I never said static thrust) in a give air density, but in more air density you wouldn't need that greater speed in the first place. So, what I know and overlooked, is that the portion of drag that is inextricable from lift is also proportional to lift, so when greater speed is needed to get the same lift, greater drag does not result. That was my mistake. (Form drag may be a different story, but it's not the big story.)
 
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OK, pretty much all of that is well known to me. In passing, though, you dropped a hint to my fallacy.

You need to go faster, and that would need more thrust (I never said static thrust) in a give air density, but in more air density you wouldn't need that greater speed in the first place. So, what I know and overlooked, is that the portion of drag that is inextricable from lift is also proportion to lift, so when greater speed is needed to get the same lift, greater drag does not result. That was my mistake. Form drag may be a different story, but it's not the big story.)
Yup…it may be that you understand this more clearly than I.

My experience is empirical and especially with respect to the handling of the airplane flown at different altitudes, pretty much subjective. And it was some time ago that I was actually trying to measure this stuff.

It would be interesting to see where the crossover is between the higher speed and the lower air density with respect to form drag….much like figuring out the point of max-Q in a rocket launch.
 
I had the sonar development system they sold. Just the sonar and digital interface. I used it for an experimental adaptive cruise control in about 1982.

I still have an SX-70, and one of their non-folding cameras.

The only AF system that focuses accurately, and relatively quickly, on a pane of glass.

At last count I had 38 working Polaroid cameras, from closeup dental cameras and Miniportrait four to a sheet cameras, to SX-70 Sonar AF stuff, Spectra’s, and a lone Swinger.

<insert lonely swinger joke here>
 
Our "driver's ed" was after school, and by a credited driving school. You got a discount thru the school, but it was 'extra curricular / 3rd party'.. they may have used a classroom, but don't remember. We never had them fancy 'simulators'.. only instructions, movies, and practical [in the car, on the road]

I got my driver's license thru a 3rd party 'drivers school'

different places, different rules & regs I guess!
 
We had it in place of gym for one quarter. It was mostly classroom, with a little bit of on the road. Due to some sort of SNAFU, they never scheduled me into it, so I just had gym when I should gotten out out of it :(
 
Our "driver's ed" was after school, and by a credited driving school. You got a discount thru the school, but it was 'extra curricular / 3rd party'.. they may have used a classroom, but don't remember. We never had them fancy 'simulators'.. only instructions, movies, and practical [in the car, on the road]

I got my driver's license thru a 3rd party 'drivers school'

different places, different rules & regs I guess!
Thats what they do here as well, no more Drivers Ed in schools.

As for Drivers Ed...what was that...I grew up learning on the road, then taking my test.
 
My high school had a parking lot that was marked up with lanes and parking areas that we practiced on for a while before they let us out on the streets. Most of the instructors were the gym teachers. I remember several of the on road sessions being trips to pick up the teachers clothes at the cleaners and going to pick up fast food.
 
Our drivers ed was in the summer. Some classroom and then onto the streets. I had been driving around in our yard [5 acres] for a couple of years and my dad taught me how to drive a stick. I turned 16 in April and was not happy to wait until summer. We drove on the country roads and in Ann Arbor. Funny story. We were in Ann Arbor and the instructor, chemistry teacher, told me to parallel park. I was lining it up when a guy comes running out of a store yelling I'll move it.

April 8, 1974. Hank Aaron sets a new MLB home run record. 715 home runs. I remember all the controversy too. Finished with 755. The record stood until Aug 7th 2007 when Barry Bonds broke it.
 
I took driver's training during the summer. They had a course laid out in the school parking lot but we blew right past it and out onto the highway in a 1966 Chevy Chevelle. Our second day was a trip down and back up the old Lewiston hill, nicknamed the spiral highway. 2000 foot drop in 10 miles and more curves than you can count. The song Hot Rod Lincoln, while placed in California, was actually written about a race up the Lewiston hill.
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My Garmin GPS has a feature, which I wish i could turn off, that will warn you when there is a curve ahead. A totally pointless feature in Idaho.

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Some of the top albums of 1974. That was the year I graduated from high school.

Pretzel Logic, Steely Dan
Second Helping, Lynyrd Skynyrd
Queen II, Queen
It's only Rock and Roll, Rolling Stones
461 Ocean Boulevard, Eri Clapton
Sheer Heart Attack, Queen
Bridge of Sighs, Robin Trower, One of my all time favorites
Kiss, Kiss, Saw them at Cobo Hall in Detroit
Fire, Ohio Players

It boggles my mind that was 50 years ago. The years sure went by fast.
 
Wow that is high priced and self service that just came out 😲
Was half that or even less just a year or 3 before that picture was taken.
But what year was that photograph taken?
What I remember was around 1970 I ran around with my friend in his Chevy Nova, regular gas was $0.24 per gallon. I don't remember prices in the mean time but there was one gas crisis thrown in there in the mid 1970s. During that gas crisis gas stations would close on Sunday to reduce usage. My car had a 16 gallon tank and got 16mpg so for me to do 600 mile round trip to visit my parents over the weekend my father built a 24gallon tank that fit where the spare tire went then I could drive the 300 mile return trip on Sunday without stopping. Back to prices- what I remember was early 1978 it was about $0.50 per gallon and prices started going up- in less than a year prices were $1.00 per gallon. Within a couple of years there was another gas crisis. This time stations in the big cities would be open only a couple of hours a day and there would be lines of cars waiting around the block to buy gas.
 
But what year was that photograph taken?
What I remember was around 1970 I ran around with my friend in his Chevy Nova, regular gas was $0.24 per gallon. I don't remember prices in the mean time but there was one gas crisis thrown in there in the mid 1970s. During that gas crisis gas stations would close on Sunday to reduce usage. My car had a 16 gallon tank and got 16mpg so for me to do 600 mile round trip to visit my parents over the weekend my father built a 24gallon tank that fit where the spare tire went then I could drive the 300 mile return trip on Sunday without stopping. Back to prices- what I remember was early 1978 it was about $0.50 per gallon and prices started going up- in less than a year prices were $1.00 per gallon. Within a couple of years there was another gas crisis. This time stations in the big cities would be open only a couple of hours a day and there would be lines of cars waiting around the block to buy gas.

Many Gas Stations still pumped gas in 1977 and 78. Self Serve was just taking over. But gas was just going up to 50 cents or more then due to the politics. It got up close to $1, so your time line seems to fit mine.

The cute girl has a "Foxy" shirt on, that was a 76-80 thing. The bumper on the car is older than that however. But she would likely be driving a used car. I am going to say if it was mid-west 1977.
 
Ohio, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young 1970. I heard it today. When I was working in the Shadow Creek Pro Shop in the Mirage a man walked in, Holy S*** it's David Crosby. Talked to him as he was looking around for about 15 minutes. Working in a Casino you see celebrities and the famous often. Donald Rumsfeld was in the shop one day. He is short. Saw Tom Selleck, He is very tall. My wife and I saw Muhammad Ali walking through the Bellagio one night. He was tall too. He had a ring of his own security and another ring of Bellagio security around his. We were within 10' of him. I saw Steven Tyler and his trainer stretching in front of the Bellagio near the Strip. Everybody walking by didn't recognize him. But me and the people I was with did. It was interesting times working in a Casino.
 
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